Slider Jump Information

[supersheep]

I was wondering what was up with the Slider Jump in 23, so I decided to find out.

I managed to get a snapshot of both Okuyama's runs from an identical angle with him standing at an identical position.

I did some measurements and calculations and found the following information along with the certainty of my calculations.

The length of the track was NOT changed 90%
The angle of the track was NOT changed 100%
The width of the track was NOT changed 100%
The height of the net was NOT changed 95%
The distance from the bar to the top of the net did NOT change. 90%


So what gives? Something had to change.... right??
Well it looks like something did but its not really measureable in 2D pictures. Look at the net, it is completely different. For one thing it doesn't curve away near as fast, its much more vertical, this could explain why people got such great height. This would also make the net appear a lot closer because where they are grabbing it, it actually is because of the angle!
It's also wider and seems to be a lot looser, but again I can't for sure, thats just visual speculation.

[Badalight]

Actually david campbell posted some comparison screenshots that pretty much confirmed it being closer. it was like... the way it was setup. i don't really remember.

[supersheep]

Thats pretty much what i said, the distances were the same in theory, but the way it was setup actually made it closer.
There is no way to know if that was how it was intended or not, but it definatly resulted that way.

[jfeathe]

The bar holding the net also had a lot more give making it easier to hold on even after a bad release.

[Oti]

I'm pretty sure someone said it's just closer.

EDIT: After watching 22 and 23 and comparing them, they look about the same. 23's net actually looks FARTHER away because of the different angle.

There's always the possibility that it's unchanged and people have just figured it out. Even David said it's not a hard obstacle when you know what to do. People had six months to prepare.

[arsenette]

;D

[scnoi1217]

I still think the net is lower or something, like if Levi used his 23 technique in 22, he wouldn't have gotten as high as he did on the net. Idk, maybe that is because of the net being closer...

[jfeathe]

Frankly, Nagano's technique really scares me. He brings his legs so high up and flings off, it just seems like there a lot of room for air.

The perfect Slider Jump clear IMO was Yuuji in 22.

EDIT: air? I meant error

[Badalight]

I personally like Nagano's technique. It's sort of like the pipe slider dismount but with much more momentum. If you have a good grip it should work fine. That's what I always visualized myself doing even before seeing his technique.

[Oti]

I also don't like Nagano's technique. I like David's - that's the way I came up with when I first saw the Slider Jump.

[Badalight]

I don't quite remember what David does.

[yamfriend]

Nov 18, 2009 20:20:25 GMT -5 Badalight said:

I don't quite remember what David does.

I'll assume that you've already seen this video, but in here it shows David practicing for the Slider Jump. I'll also assume that this is his usual technique to beating this obstacle as well. Him practicing on his replica of the Slider Jump starts at about 2:52.

[Badalight]

I dunno if that'd work for me. I think Nagano's would be natural. Not saying David's is bad, actually looks better to me.

I just think I'm already suited for Nagano's technique.

[Oti]

I... don't see how you can tell without having ever tried it.

I just think Nagano's is a little over-the-top and unnecessary. It can be accomplished much more easily and as Bruce Lee said, "Just enough is enough.".

[Badalight]

You're right, I havn't tried Oti. I'm just saying Nagano's technique LOOKS like something I would do.

While I can't picture myself using David's technique. That's all.