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Oct 26, 2009 20:07:57 GMT -5
Post by Oti on Oct 26, 2009 20:07:57 GMT -5
For anyone wondering, the title stands for "What the f*** is this s***?" Check it. Anyone else irked by this? I wonder if Monster 9 and/or TBS know about this.
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Oct 26, 2009 20:46:34 GMT -5
Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 26, 2009 20:46:34 GMT -5
It's called editing... you can clearly see the background for Sasuke 20 under their logo... But yeah.. it is one hell of a deception to use Sasuke footage and edit to make it look like their show is the same (especially since we know Brian did compete)... That should be iconic enough to know that it's fake... Also.. about the title.. would you like to use this? www.majhost.com/gallery/manaleader/AvatarTwentyTen4/wtfdrsuess.jpg
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Oct 26, 2009 21:04:21 GMT -5
Post by Homeslice on Oct 26, 2009 21:04:21 GMT -5
Wow. M9 and TBS gets wind of this, there ain't no more Americans going to SASUKE again.
Not saying it to be mean, I'm saying it because they will not like this at all.
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Oct 26, 2009 21:10:07 GMT -5
Post by Zorn on Oct 26, 2009 21:10:07 GMT -5
Well I'm sure it can't be that bad? Right....RIGHT? Maybe the logo only appears for a few seconds?
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Oct 26, 2009 21:41:46 GMT -5
Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 26, 2009 21:41:46 GMT -5
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Oct 26, 2009 22:19:14 GMT -5
Post by joemello on Oct 26, 2009 22:19:14 GMT -5
Wow. M9 and TBS gets wind of this, there ain't no more Americans going to SASUKE again. Not saying it to be mean, I'm saying it because they will not like this at all. I'm with Rider. You act as if no one's ever used Adobe Premiere. /3rd time I've used Wharrgarbl today. A new record?
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Oct 26, 2009 22:22:42 GMT -5
Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 26, 2009 22:22:42 GMT -5
Wow. M9 and TBS gets wind of this, there ain't no more Americans going to SASUKE again. Not saying it to be mean, I'm saying it because they will not like this at all. I'm with Rider. You act as if no one's ever used Adobe Premiere. /3rd time I've used Wharrgarbl today. A new record? For the record.... How would you do that in Premier? As this proves I suck at using it (A picture, a gif, and then converted the video to a gif if you're wondering) (EDIT for this part: In theory I know how to do it.. but how would you get the objects in front of it (In this case the Rokudantobi 1st and 3rd steps and Brian) not covered?) But yeah.. What's the big deal? They covered the start line on a clip they've shown thousands of times.. And shown in it's real form on plenty of commercials before... Why are you guys acting like it's the end of the world to promote their show? Like promotion works.. you want to make things look better than they are? Would you rather have watched him doing those blue carpeted Rokudantobi from their trials? (which we know Brian was at)
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Oct 26, 2009 22:36:04 GMT -5
Post by arsenette on Oct 26, 2009 22:36:04 GMT -5
Actually it is a big deal if M9/TBS didn't give them permission. CBS morning show did that a few times where they showed time square and super imposed their own logo on there and they got fined by both the FCC and Times Square. They stopped doing it.. I think now they only do it on inanimate objects but not superimposing someone else's logo...
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Oct 26, 2009 22:43:11 GMT -5
Post by Homeslice on Oct 26, 2009 22:43:11 GMT -5
Thank you. Finally, someone who agrees with me.
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Oct 26, 2009 22:53:16 GMT -5
Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 26, 2009 22:53:16 GMT -5
Actually it is a big deal if M9/TBS didn't give them permission. CBS morning show did that a few times where they showed time square and super imposed their own logo on there and they got fined by both the FCC and Times Square. They stopped doing it.. I think now they only do it on inanimate objects but not superimposing someone else's logo... That's something different... New York didn't sell them footage of Times Square to do what they wanted.. CBS recorded it... TBS sells G4 their Sasuke broadcasts to edit into Ninja Warrior, G4 paid for the footage, they didn't record it themself.. By that logic you're using Ninja Warrior is illegal because they edited their clock out, added another, and added a sidebar of obstacles and added subtitles..
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Oct 26, 2009 23:01:33 GMT -5
Post by arsenette on Oct 26, 2009 23:01:33 GMT -5
Actually they never delete objects in view just alter TBS super imposed items. This does apply. They super imposed over the official broadcast's logo within the broadcast. Even if they bought the rights to edit their broadcast to smaller parts they do not have permission to alter the logo. Their license is to rebroadcast in smaller segments .. not alter things on the playing field. Their broadcast is a different story (Like adding Ninja warrior - even JET TV does their own entry and exit to suit their needs) but they never delete the broadcast image to promote their own show. That's not permissible. Depends on whether or not TBS gets pissed or not. Provided they even know. This is after all the very first ANW.. they might have gone over the line.
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Oct 26, 2009 23:03:32 GMT -5
Post by Oti on Oct 26, 2009 23:03:32 GMT -5
Time Square is public property and videos of it are free to take and use. Editing the logo there, however, obviously pissed some people off. If Monster 9 and/or TBS wanted to, I'm sure they could get away with suing G4 over this.
Even if this isn't illegal, G4 has sunken to a new low. I didn't think it was possible, but I hate them even more now. I'm kind of hoping G4 gets caught and isn't allowed to send any more Americans.
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Oct 26, 2009 23:06:50 GMT -5
Post by joemello on Oct 26, 2009 23:06:50 GMT -5
Actually it is a big deal if M9/TBS didn't give them permission. Agreed, but that's a mighty big if. G4 already has the rights to the footage, so I can't imagine this is a violation. Deal or No Deal adds shine and blur effects in promos to prevent spoilers. Broadcasters of NFL games often play around with video screens and added their own CG jumbotrons to stadiums. G4 plays around with AOTS footage to make promos. Editing the logo there, however, obviously pissed some people off. You mean people who are already calling out G4 for every little thing they do and are convinced that not only were the grapes sour, but they're actually cherry tomatoes made entirely of poison? /I'm sure there's some layering involved. //I only threw out Premiere because it's their vid editor
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Oct 26, 2009 23:09:51 GMT -5
Post by Oti on Oct 26, 2009 23:09:51 GMT -5
There's a difference between editing videos to prevent spoilers, hide inappropriate things, etc. and editing a video to shamelessly promote your own bulls**t.
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Oct 26, 2009 23:12:34 GMT -5
Post by arsenette on Oct 26, 2009 23:12:34 GMT -5
Yeah Joe I've seen some broadcasters blur copyrighted images of Tshirts and stuff if it's in direct violation with their sponsors but this doesn't apply at all here. Tempted to see what/if M9 does anything with this. Should be interesting. Anyone want to send it? I already send enough stuff there And yes I agree Oti. This is ridiculous. There's enough American to be shown here and they had a good thing going.. they didn't need to blur the Sasuke thing.. after all.. THIS is the show everyone is willing to give their left nad to be a part of. People didn't go ZOMG it's ANW.. it's ZOMG they pay my way to get into SASUKE.. Friggin' G4 idiots.
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Oct 26, 2009 23:14:47 GMT -5
Post by Oti on Oct 26, 2009 23:14:47 GMT -5
I actually tried to send it, but the e-mail I used is no longer valid, apparently. It was the sasuke@musclepark.jp one. I haven't tried the M9 one yet.
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Oct 26, 2009 23:17:23 GMT -5
Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 26, 2009 23:17:23 GMT -5
Actually they never delete objects in view just alter TBS super imposed items. This does apply. They super imposed over the official broadcast's logo within the broadcast. Even if they bought the rights to edit their broadcast to smaller parts they do not have permission to alter the logo. Their license is to rebroadcast in smaller segments .. not alter things on the playing field. Their broadcast is a different story (Like adding Ninja warrior - even JET TV does their own entry and exit to suit their needs) but they never delete the broadcast image to promote their own show. That's not permissible. Depends on whether or not TBS gets pissed or not. Provided they even know. This is after all the very first ANW.. they might have gone over the line. That's just it... they didn't... The broadcast logo is still in tact.. the start line was edited but yet the SASUKE logo still is there... Now if they edited that screen too maybe you would have had an argument.. but they didn't... Would you rather they just had footage of someone going over These?
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Oct 26, 2009 23:19:58 GMT -5
Post by arsenette on Oct 26, 2009 23:19:58 GMT -5
I'd go right to the source so definitely try M9's. Muscle Park are just employee's of M9 anyway. Hmmm.. I wonder why their address changed. As for the Sasuke Mania one.. not sure who monitors that.
K the one I got for Muscle Park is this one - info@musclepark.jp I got a response there saying that they don't ship overseas and encouraged me to fly to Japan to get their Memorabilia... LOL Let me get right to that..
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Oct 26, 2009 23:21:11 GMT -5
Post by joemello on Oct 26, 2009 23:21:11 GMT -5
Your thoughts.
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Oct 26, 2009 23:21:37 GMT -5
Post by Oti on Oct 26, 2009 23:21:37 GMT -5
When did you e-mail them? I've gotten responses from them before, but lately the e-mail hasn't worked.
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