Chinese wiki, Possible new results??

[scnoi1217]

While working on the wiki, I noticed a fellow editor (intelligentinfernape) posted a new result for Asaoka Hiroyuki:

sasukepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Asaoka_Hiroyuki

Basically: (朝岡 弘行) SASUKE 20, #1971, Rope Ladder Time Out

Now, this may seem absurd at first, but I did some research as well and the Chinese wiki for SASUKE (English translation here) not only lists that result but also lists this one:

Ījima Toyihisa (飯島 豊久) SASUKE 20, #1966, Rope Ladder Time Out

So yes, the Chinese wiki is saying both Bruce Lee guy and the SASUKE Sensei not only competed but timed out on the Rope Ladder. I'm not sure where they would get this info, if it is legit.

More possible results:
Kobayashi Shinji (小林 信治) SASUKE 21, #79, Rope Ladder Time Out
Kobayashi Shinji (小林 信治) SASUKE 18, #44, Failed Flying Chute

Btw, these results aren't new either. The ones about SASUKE 21 go back to at least the time of SASUKE 22. Do you think we could find the source of all this to prove it has any legitimacy at all?

[supersheep]

"Kobayashi Shinji (¬—Ñ MŽ¡) SASUKE 18, #44, Failed Flying Chute"

This does not seem right.... Didn't the annoucer say the next guy Shinji Yamashita was the first to clear the JS and BB?

If so, that makes that impossible, thus, making them all in my eyes unreliable

[Badalight]

Isn't intelligentinfer on this site?

If that's the same guy... I'm not trying to be mean but I don't think it's legit.

[scnoi1217]

He is...but that's not the point. He didn't make up these results, he found them.

[Badalight]

Has he done any reliable editing before, and it's also from the Chinese Wiki, not the Japanese one.

Why would the Chinese Wiki have these magical results? Who sai that was reliable? have we ever gotten something form there before?

I'm just saying I don't think it's reliable, maybe it is and I'm wrong. I'd prefer being wrong because I love ijima.

[BLM]

Yeah it doesnt seem reasonable

[scnoi1217]

Oct 20, 2009 9:53:15 GMT -5 Badalight said:

Has he done any reliable editing before, and it's also from the Chinese Wiki, not the Japanese one.

Why would the Chinese Wiki have these magical results? Who sai that was reliable? have we ever gotten something form there before?

I'm just saying I don't think it's reliable, maybe it is and I'm wrong. I'd prefer being wrong because I love ijima.

This is what I'm asking. I'm not saying it is reliable because it is a wiki, obviously. I'm saying rather than just blindly discard this info, actually DOING some detective work and seeing if this can be traced back to somewhere and THEN making a decision from there.

About SASUKE 18, it's very possible that they edited the audio and showed the people they did so it fit with their narrative, which would be "ZOMG, this course is really hard and all the new obstacles do damage." It's pretty convenient that they show a few people failing one obstacle, than one or two people beating it only to fail the next obstacle, etc all the way through. If one of the first few people shown actually blitzed through the obstacles, it would take away from the mystique of the course. In short, that result is still possible.

[supersheep]

About 18, does that mean that we dont know that the first 8 or however many people failed the rope glider?

[The Chief]

scnoi, if that's true, it puts everything we known based on the announcer under question. In other words, we wouldn't know a lot of things.

[intelligentinfer]

Yeah, some of my information are found in the Chinese wiki.
Not showing off but I can read Chinese.

[scnoi1217]

Oct 20, 2009 20:42:05 GMT -5 The Chief said:

scnoi, if that's true, it puts everything we known based on the announcer under question. In other words, we wouldn't know a lot of things.

Yea exactly. I mean, I guess we should go off that until proven otherwise but it does seem odd that everything would fall in order like that. Plus, it's hard to believe the first 8 people would fail the Rope Glider when the Choshu managed to.

[scnoi1217]

Well, this got a lot more interesting...

I was talking with the competitor lists guy about the results seen above. While most of these are possible, there isn't any to prove if they are real or not...except one:

Kobayashi Shinji (小林 信治) SASUKE 18, #44, Failed Flying Chute

The reason that this one definitely is possible is during #48 Suzuki Naohiro's run. After he completed the Flying Chute, the announcer says something to the effect that he is the second person to attempt that obstacle. Now, the only three possible people it could have been are:
#44 Kobayashi Shinji
#46 Miyake Ayako
#47 Takahashi Yasuhiko

The reason for this is because when #43 Yoneda Yuusuke is being introduced, the announcer said that only three people had made it to the Jumping Spider at that point.

#47 is out because he was shown in digest that he failed the Jumping Spider.
It is unlikely that Miyake got there as Luci was the first one to beat the JS in 21.

Therefore, it is very possible that Shinji did fail the Flying Chute in 18.

[chackpop]

Nov 16, 2009 18:06:53 GMT -5 scnoi1217 said:

Well, this got a lot more interesting...

I was talking with the competitor lists guy about the results seen above. While most of these are possible, there isn't any to prove if they are real or not...except one:

Kobayashi Shinji (小林 信治) SASUKE 18, #44, Failed Flying Chute

The reason that this one definitely is possible is during #48 Suzuki Naohiro's run. After he completed the Flying Chute, the announcer says something to the effect that he is the second person to attempt that obstacle. Now, the only three possible people it could have been are:
#44 Kobayashi Shinji
#46 Miyake Ayako
#47 Takahashi Yasuhiko

The reason for this is because when #43 Yoneda Yuusuke is being introduced, the announcer said that only three people had made it to the Jumping Spider at that point.

#47 is out because he was shown in digest that he failed the Jumping Spider.
It is unlikely that Miyake got there as Luci was the first one to beat the JS in 21.

Therefore, it is very possible that Shinji did fail the Flying Chute in 18.

Remember when you said that the producers can edit the wording? Doesnt that mean they can edit the part where they said only 3 people had attempted the Jumping Spider? You know, to make the course seem impossible? this means that anyone below 43 could have completed the Jumping SPider

[arsenette]

I wonder if they had Sasuke Maniac around the same time.. they would have cut people on that one.

[scnoi1217]

Nov 17, 2009 18:42:46 GMT -5 chackpop said:

Nov 16, 2009 18:06:53 GMT -5 scnoi1217 said:

Well, this got a lot more interesting...

I was talking with the competitor lists guy about the results seen above. While most of these are possible, there isn't any to prove if they are real or not...except one:

Kobayashi Shinji (小林 信治) SASUKE 18, #44, Failed Flying Chute

The reason that this one definitely is possible is during #48 Suzuki Naohiro's run. After he completed the Flying Chute, the announcer says something to the effect that he is the second person to attempt that obstacle. Now, the only three possible people it could have been are:
#44 Kobayashi Shinji
#46 Miyake Ayako
#47 Takahashi Yasuhiko

The reason for this is because when #43 Yoneda Yuusuke is being introduced, the announcer said that only three people had made it to the Jumping Spider at that point.

#47 is out because he was shown in digest that he failed the Jumping Spider.
It is unlikely that Miyake got there as Luci was the first one to beat the JS in 21.

Therefore, it is very possible that Shinji did fail the Flying Chute in 18.

Remember when you said that the producers can edit the wording? Doesnt that mean they can edit the part where they said only 3 people had attempted the Jumping Spider? You know, to make the course seem impossible? this means that anyone below 43 could have completed the Jumping SPider

True, but this also means that TBS has been proven wrong and that Suzuki Naohiro was not the first one to get there. I was saying that if what they said about only 3 making it to the JS by #43 is true, then this result is true and Shinji most likely made it to the Flying Chute and failed there.