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Post by intelligentinfer on Oct 18, 2009 4:25:43 GMT -5
Which obstacle do you think will be removed?
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Post by HarlequinKnight on Oct 18, 2009 4:28:29 GMT -5
It was a toss-up between the steps and the curtain slider for me, but I found the curtain slider to be much more entertaining than the steps. However, I fully expect them both to be replaced.
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Post by quasikoz on Oct 18, 2009 8:02:45 GMT -5
I voted Arm Rings, just because I want my Rumbling Dice back.
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Post by Ninja Chris on Oct 18, 2009 8:06:06 GMT -5
I voted Arm Rings, just because I want my Rumbling Dice back. No joke! That was such an awesome obstacle...
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Post by davidyko on Oct 18, 2009 9:18:56 GMT -5
I hope they take out the Steps. It's a mediocre obstacle, and we've had the Steps in some form forever.
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Post by yamfriend on Oct 18, 2009 11:05:45 GMT -5
I voted for the 12-step thing (not even gonna try spelling its real name ) since it's not original or difficult enough...we need a new general first obstacle idea. Also, I actually thought that the Curtain Slider was rather interesting since it eliminated/almost eliminated a few noteworthy competitors (IMO, Lee Enchi had a pretty close call on it, as well as getting rid of that one Olympian, who was #91 in Sasuke 23), though I believe that it won't last into another competition because of some gut feeling. Slider Jump might go (or at least be modified back to how it was in 22 or something) due to a higher number of people clearing it in 23...I think this is a pretty decent obstacle for Stage 1, though it may be removed soon if too many competitors continue to pass it. Unstable Bridge BETTER stay...look at what it did in 23, knocking 3 of the 11 people who reached it out. It's an awesome idea IMO, and it is certainly much better than the Swing Ladder, which never even eliminated a single competitor in the 3 Sasukes that it was in. Also, the Unstable Bridge's jump to safety is very challenging as well, especially with the 2nd part rotating that prevents you from grabbing back on to it if you lose your balance, leading to some somewhat close calls and even one fall (*COUGH* Yuuji *COUGH*) in the process. Metal Spin is most likely gonna stay for the duration of Shin-Sasuke IMO since it was kept in even after the course's redesign. If it lasts that, then it's probably going to stick around...for now, at least. Arm Rings will probably also stay, though IMO it SHOULD be replaced by the Rumbling Dice, like a lot of other people say. Kudari Lamp Grasper is too easy for Shin-Sasuke's Stage 3 and might be modified or replaced soon...after all, it's the only current Stage 3 obstacle that has never been failed (NOTE: the same version of the Jumping Bars were failed in Sasukes 14 and 15 by Makoto Nagano and Koji Yamada, respectively). For other, I'd like to see something new in place of the Spider Flip (allows too much time for competitors to rest), Gliding Ring (Pipe Slider was way harder, and that's what the final obstacle of Stage 3 should be), Devil Steps (pretty easy; most just get drained a little for the Shin-Cliff Hanger because of this and should be replaced by a previous Stage 3 obstacle like the Curtain Cling or Curtain Swing), and possibly even Hang Climbing (nobody except Takeda seems to struggle on this, and even he was able to pass it in Sasuke 23). I REALLY think that the Shin Stage 3 needs to be made even harder, especially after how well most of the competitors who reached it in 24 performed pretty well on it. ...that was way too much that I said---again!
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Post by arsenette on Oct 18, 2009 11:25:24 GMT -5
I voted the Curtain Slider. Heard they had more technical problems with that more than anything else.
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Post by rcplanes59 on Oct 18, 2009 11:46:05 GMT -5
I think all of those obstacles are safe. Jyunidantobi eliminated more than the Rokudantobi, Curtain Slider eliminated more than the Circle Hammer, Slider Jump is still a force to be reckoned with, Unstable Bridge eliminated more than the Swing Ladder would in 50 tournaments, Metal Spin still eliminated obstacles and is a Stage 2 staple, Arm Rings are safe because the first obstacle of Stage 3 never eliminates anybody anyway (and if the producers wanted it any other way the Arm Rings would have been gone long ago) PLUS it's a Muscle Park obstacle, and the Descending Globe Grasp going would mean the Devil Steps would have to go and the Devil Steps are a good obstacle. I have a feeling it'll be the Log Grip in Stage 1, nothing in Stage 2, and the Hang Climbing in Stage 3.
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Post by bigblind168 on Oct 18, 2009 11:50:24 GMT -5
12 step should go. steps got boring after 20
and as for arm rings - devil steps
do u guys not understand that they are not suposed to be failed? I have said before and I will keep saying this, there are 4 "ninja killers" for lack of a better term, in stage 3 that are supose to elimate people?
arm rings- tricky track drain ur arms lamp grasper- even bada said its somewhat difficult. devil steps,- more of a mental obstacle, doesnt take much energy to complete but u get really high up jumping bars- energy waster
real obstacles cliff hanger- no comment needed hang climbing- no comment needed spider flip- its a fairly far jump, but the thing, as Oti said, its mental demon, ur insanely high up, with a fairly large jump ahead of you, and if u dont just JUST right, your screwed gliding ring- LONG JUMP. Kongu has gorilla limbs and he didnt clear, Nagano took a f***ing leap of faith and barely made it. Again its a mental obstacle.
But they want people to make the final stage. All this is an energy waster for the G-rope honestly.
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Post by yamfriend on Oct 18, 2009 13:37:52 GMT -5
spider flip- its a fairly far jump, but the thing, as Oti said, its mental demon, ur insanely high up, with a fairly large jump ahead of you, and if u dont just JUST right, your screwed That's pretty intimidating...makes me think a little differently about that "Height Factor" poll in one of the other sections. How high up is the Spider Flip anyway? I don't know exactly, but it is sure is high enough to make me fail.
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Post by bigblind168 on Oct 18, 2009 13:49:35 GMT -5
spider flip- its a fairly far jump, but the thing, as Oti said, its mental demon, ur insanely high up, with a fairly large jump ahead of you, and if u dont just JUST right, your screwed That's pretty intimidating...makes me think a little differently about that "Height Factor" poll in one of the other sections. How high up is the Spider Flip anyway? I don't know exactly, but it is sure is high enough to make me fail. idk, i think like 20ft ish
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2009 15:17:02 GMT -5
They should keep the Curtain Slider, as long as they stretch the curtain out for each competitor.
But yeah, Dodecatuple Step, gtfo. Hopefully they just did this to give the obstacle a final run.
It would be cool if they brang back the prism tilt.
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Post by yamfriend on Oct 18, 2009 15:19:43 GMT -5
It would be cool if they brang back the prism tilt. We think alike, man! I said almost the same exact thing in another post!
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Post by mrryanmac on Oct 18, 2009 16:07:13 GMT -5
I think stage 1 is gonna have an almost complete makeover ala 12--->13. I expect only Log Grip, and Jumping Spider to remain. A more sinister warped wall will debut.
Stage 2 is now where it was before Nagano won, perfection all-around. No changes please!
Stage 3's gonna get a few new obstacles too. I expect Arm Rings, Globe Grasp and Devil Steps replaced.
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Post by jfeathe on Oct 18, 2009 16:14:04 GMT -5
I going to go out on a limb with this suggestion, but I think they might replace the Jumping Bars. Only a handful of people (2 or 3??) have ever failed it and it doesn't drain enough energy before the Ascending Climb/ Spider Flip combo.
If I had my way, I'd have a Descending Arm Rings into the Ascending Climb.
I'd also replace the first obstacle with the Arm Bike and have no rest going into the Downwards Globe Grasp.
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Post by TCM on Oct 18, 2009 16:31:52 GMT -5
Well to be fair, the Jumping Bars knocked out Nagano and Yamada (Koji), and they likely contributed to Bunpei's failure during his infamous run after having Heatstroke. Also, to say it doesn't drain enough energy is slightly unfair, as Takeda was basically on empty when he started Hang Climbing/Ascending Climb (though really they're two different obstacles ) in 21, I would be confident to say the bars depleted a good portion of it and he lost the rest afterward. I would imagine it did the same in 23, just that he had more in the tank this time. It's just more of an energy drainer now than anything the only change that could be made would be to increase back to six or at least five. And if we were going by the fewer the failures it has it should be gone, the Metal Spin and Downhill Jump should go too, they only had two each since Shin-Sasuke started. Now I'm not trying to bash your opinion and excuse me if it sounds that way, I'm just saying why I think it won't, actually I feel they'll leave the course unchanged this time, no one's been consistent enough to pass any of the stages more than once in consecutive tournaments besides Lee (21, 22, and 23) and Okuyama (22, 23). Everyone else has had the good one time, bad the next timing.
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Post by BLM on Oct 18, 2009 16:44:59 GMT -5
I accually think that stage 1 and 2 are going to be the same expect maybe a time change in stage 1. Stage 3 will probably be changed but only one obstacle
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Post by wolf4537 on Oct 18, 2009 17:09:51 GMT -5
I want to see a change to the descending globe grasp, but they should have it be a descending to ascending to descending again type of obstacle. THAT would make me like it more.
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Post by baronbk on Oct 18, 2009 17:38:43 GMT -5
I don't see them changing anything really, maybe the curtain slider.
Btw, how far is the gap on the spider flip? I thought it was like 6 - 7 feet.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Oct 18, 2009 17:58:00 GMT -5
Baring in mind that M9 wants a kanzenseiha (or at least hyping that one will happen), I don't think they will do anything (like a 12 -> 13 type changes). What they probably will do is:
1st Stage: Change one or two obstacles: Steps and HPA gone, replaced with brand new obstacles and (hopefully) a balance bridge or some kind. Probably the order of the obstacles will be played with and the Jumping Spider moved so it leads right to the WW.
2nd Stage: No change
3rd Stage: Changes probably should be made to the first three obstacles, that way people that can normally clear the later obstacles are a bit more tired and thus have less of a chance at clearing.
Final Stage: None
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