1st two new obstacles of Stage 1

[wolf4537]

So what did you guys think of the 12 steps obstacle and that so called curtain slide on the 1st stage?

I was still confused though, what exactly WAS the 2nd obstacle?

[chackpop]

You ran off the platform, grabbed the curtain, and slid down the track to the other side.

On topic: I liked these obstacles. The Curtain Slide was fun to watch

[quasikoz]

I liked the new steps, but I think we still need a different 2nd obstacle.

[arsenette]

I liked them both

[bigblind168]

cut the time down to 110, and you got a great first stage.

[jfeathe]

The 12-step was really cool and the Curtain Slider was unique enough.

[rcplanes59]

Well they can't go back to Rokudantobi... ever... so the Junidantobi will stay. However I think the Curtain Slider will be out in a few tournaments, if not next tournament. I liked them both though. Certainly unique.

[obakemono]

The Jyunidantobi (not sure what to call it in English yet) was very good and I'm sure will stick around for a while, the Curtain Slider wasn't particularly challenging but it was great to watch and gave the stage a much needed injection of pace. I don't know if it'll still be there for 24 though. In fact, I have no idea what they're going to do to the first stage for 24.

[scnoi1217]

The Curtain Slider while basic, was really fun to watch. I just loved watching competitors just fly through there. The steps were cool, although they seemed a bit too easy as you could go slow, but I still liked it.

[penguincatfish]

I'd just call 'em the Log Steps. They were cool because of how they weren't entirely at the same angle, and since they were closer together you wouldn't have as much momentum or speed at the end.

The Curtain Slide looks like a lot of fun to try. It looked more interesting than watching competitors hang there and frantically spin around for a minute.

[Badalight]

Sept 28, 2009 16:19:03 GMT -5 bigblind168 said:

cut the time down to 110, and you got a great first stage.

Are you feeling alright? Even the perfect runs in stage 1 were only around 20 seconds long...

Perfect runs should be around the 30ish second mark.

If it was 10 seconds less, the best times would be around 10... and that's stupid.

Do you know how many time outs there were already?

The news steps take a bit longer to complete, and even though the circle hammer is gone the old time limit was too strict anyway.

Time limit is fine, maybe even too strict still.

[scnoi1217]

Sept 28, 2009 19:13:53 GMT -5 Badalight said:

Sept 28, 2009 16:19:03 GMT -5 bigblind168 said:

cut the time down to 110, and you got a great first stage.

Are you feeling alright? Even the perfect runs in stage 1 were only around 20 seconds long...

Perfect runs should be around the 30ish second mark.

If it was 10 seconds less, the best times would be around 10... and that's stupid.

Do you know how many time outs there were already?

The news steps take a bit longer to complete, and even though the circle hammer is gone the old time limit was too strict anyway.

Time limit is fine, maybe even too strict still.

Not really. By that definition, how many perfect runs have their been since Akiyama's win? Not many: Takeda and Nagano in 14, and Levi in 23. I would consider Levi's run in 20 perfect just like Nagasaki's in 17. They both got the best time and both only had about 16-17 seconds left. 23's time limit is lenient coming only behind 14's. Kanno had like 7 seconds left and he did the HPA three times. If someone wasted that much time on a pre-14 course, they would have easily timed out. Someone like Kawahara probably shouldn't have gotten that far. His pace up to the wall was worse than Yamada's. Cut it 10 seconds? Maybe. 5 seconds? Definitely. If they did that, would much change? Not really, you'll still get double digit clears and will have some exciting finishes as well. The time could have been lower, but hey, it did make the stage exciting.

[Badalight]

Everyone had a fast pace.

Sure, people are finishing in the 20's, but in the old tournametns that was common aswell.

And that's only if they had a perfect or near perfect run.

Levi was incredibly fast, doing the obstacle quickly, taking no breaks, and running on the paths.

And his time still wasn't very high.

If it get's more strict it'll be insane, look at how many time-outs there were.

The point of the time is so you can't ease by while making pointless mistakes, it's not there so you have to sprint through each obstacle without having a single moment to catch your breathe or even take 2 seconds to observe and obstacle.

The time limit is perfect, there were exciting finishes, plenty of time ups, and a few people with high times around the 20 range.

That's perfect... if you take away 10 seconds then that means a near perfect run will be hearing the buzzer... that's insane.

[Lennon]

I really didn't care for the new first obstacle. To me it was pretty much the same thing except more steps. If they were going to change the first obstacle, they should have changed it to something completely different.

The second obstacle though was freaking fun to watch. Even though you could probably take like 2 seconds to run right through it, it was definitely a lot more entertaining to watch, and to tell you the truth, I thought it actually fight the first stage perrfectly.

[scnoi1217]

Sept 28, 2009 20:53:40 GMT -5 Badalight said:

Everyone had a fast pace.

Sure, people are finishing in the 20's, but in the old tournametns that was common aswell.

And that's only if they had a perfect or near perfect run.

Levi was incredibly fast, doing the obstacle quickly, taking no breaks, and running on the paths.

And his time still wasn't very high.

If it get's more strict it'll be insane, look at how many time-outs there were.

The point of the time is so you can't ease by while making pointless mistakes, it's not there so you have to sprint through each obstacle without having a single moment to catch your breathe or even take 2 seconds to observe and obstacle.

The time limit is perfect, there were exciting finishes, plenty of time ups, and a few people with high times around the 20 range.

That's perfect... if you take away 10 seconds then that means a near perfect run will be hearing the buzzer... that's insane.

Finishing with 20 seconds definitely wasn't common, well maybe in the 1-4 days. However, the next time anyone finished with 20 seconds or more was Nagano in 13, so yea. The point of the time is so that people aren't walking through the stage and clearing. And to the people that timed out, they weren't going anywhere what it took to clear in 23 or in any other Shin-SASUKE tournament. Jordan was really slow on most of the obstacles, Kawahara got caught in the net among other things, the ANW guy probably lost time somewhere.

Oh and refute your point that a perfect/near perfect with the warning buzzer is insane. Look at many of the early competitions. Look at Shingo's run in 8, or many of the runs in 17. Adachi, Honma, Lee, all were perfect, yet very low on time.

[bigblind168]

Sept 28, 2009 19:13:53 GMT -5 Badalight said:

Sept 28, 2009 16:19:03 GMT -5 bigblind168 said:

cut the time down to 110, and you got a great first stage.

Are you feeling alright? Even the perfect runs in stage 1 were only around 20 seconds long...

Perfect runs should be around the 30ish second mark.

If it was 10 seconds less, the best times would be around 10... and that's stupid.

Do you know how many time outs there were already?

The news steps take a bit longer to complete, and even though the circle hammer is gone the old time limit was too strict anyway.

Time limit is fine, maybe even too strict still.

im getting the sense you wanted more clears.
Ive been saying since SASUKE 21, they needed 10-15 clears. You have consistantly been against that... expiriences changes minds, doesnt it?

[Deleted]

I thought the... the Log Steps were okay, but I hate the slow pace to them. When people fail on that obstacle, its not as funny as when it was with the Sextuple Step, due to the larger gaps in the steps.

And I think the first obstacle should be easy. More easy than it is now.

As for the Curtain Cling, it was cool, but there's alot of "Grab this, and slide" obstacles in this stage. I thought it would've been a better second stage obstacle.

But I'm nitpicking. Still, the Unstable Bridge pwned both of these new obstacles in awesomeness.

[scopedknife]

The Curtain Slide was fair enough: a combination of a couple of older obstacles, and I nice fresh feel to the sliding idea. But the DODECTUPLE STEP?! Before it went from 5 steps to 6, but now TWELVE?! Personally I think it's slightly ridiculous. But I guess that's Sasuke for you: OTT lol

[Badalight]

I wasn't a fan of the first obstcale.

The curtain slider was awesome though, I'm a fan of that one, hope they keep it.

[Zorn]

Both obstacles look fine to me. Don't see anything wrong it, so they should keep both.