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Post by lars072 on Sept 19, 2008 6:27:39 GMT -5
Thing with the jump on the pipe slider was the idea was to get a good jump forward to reach the finish, with this ring whatever it is supposed to do on the track, when you get to the end that is insanly hard since it declines and puts you almost below the ledge and the gap much wider meaning you need to swing some really high momentum like on a swing in a park and then jump up and over like a arch and catapault yourself to the ledge. IMagine trying to do that when your arms are sapped!! Satanic! Although i'm gonna call it now 6 months before, Nagano gets to the Final stage in 22! (Provided he is on form like in 21) Unless changes are made to that piece of crap Ring 'Glider,' not even Nagano will make it to the final stage. IMPOSSIBLE!
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Post by hersper on Sept 19, 2008 6:49:35 GMT -5
It's not impossible... I mean, the ring doesn't slide at all, so it's far more easier to get good momentum with the ring, and thats all it takes to get to the final platform. The strength left in ur arms after all of stage 1, 2 and 3 is another story though.
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Post by lars072 on Sept 19, 2008 8:06:29 GMT -5
It's not impossible... I mean, the ring doesn't slide at all, so it's far more easier to get good momentum with the ring, and thats all it takes to get to the final platform. The strength left in ur arms after all of stage 1, 2 and 3 is another story though. Did you se the gap? If the Final Ring was like #17s Circle Slider then that is possible to get the required momentum to make the jump. But being it's like the Pipe Slider you have to generate your own momentum and that is impossible.
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Post by obakemono on Sept 19, 2008 8:13:53 GMT -5
It's not impossible, considering you can actually swing the ring forwards, which you can't do with the pipe. That'll take you half way there, then you have to leap at the height of the swing. Before each stage they have a course tester demonstrate the entire thing. They would've seen it done right there. It's clearly very possible.
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Post by Badalight on Sept 19, 2008 10:01:52 GMT -5
It's possible, nagano almost had it, he latched the ring he just couldn't hold on fromt he shock of his last jump.
if he had a little more energy he could've made it.
Far from impossible, but very very hard.
I think the Hang climbing took the most out of him. he was smiling before the jumping bars, but he just FLEW through those and even the Hang Climbing. but the faster you do it the harder it is. It didn't look like it was hard on him because it looked like he did it so easy, but his arms must've kille dhim after reaching the spider flip. When he hunched over you could tell his arms were in pain.
That hang climbing is just a batch... is takes everything you've got left.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 19, 2008 11:55:58 GMT -5
He should have used his feet on the the Hang Climbing now that its legal, then he might have made it to the Final Stage, He should have also lifted it and pushed it forward from the rest bar so you start off farthur ahead. And that jump is very possible, as its been said, theres a notch the ring locks into, that makes the swinging and the jump the easiest part of Stage 3, unfortunatly you'd have to do all the other obstacles and the rest of the Gliding Ring track first so its not so easy getting there. But like its been said, its a ring, it can push you back and forth while swinging while you had to keep the Pipe Slider in place. With this one if you got enough momentum you can jump up past the height of the track to that mat (I wouldn't recomend that in case you miss though)
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Post by Badalight on Sept 19, 2008 17:11:08 GMT -5
I'm wondering something...
Nagnao was resting on the green bar, and he could reach out and grab the ring right?
COuldn't he have pushed off of the green bar with his legs and gotten like halfway down?
That would've been smart...
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Post by bigblind168 on Sept 19, 2008 19:18:52 GMT -5
Well it was mine and my dads first live japanese broadcast. So thatll always be special.
I had to leave after stage 1 for school but luckily i saw the rest on a page, so yeh, it was a great tourny.
As for people are saying whose going back for ANC4, i think Brian should be the expirienced competitor, Levi is being invited back, cuz there calling him the new hope as i recall. They might also send back Luci, Nagano might ask for luci (ahh good times in the chat). Luci did good, but unless she can jump a good 17ft, i dont see her passing the warped wall.
Brians run had me on the edge of my seat he's def gotta return, and he probably will. They might ask for for TBS to invite him back so luci can be expirenced competitor, or vice versa.
I was super suprised that mark fell on the log grip, infact i was barely paying attention i was lookin @ the chat, i glanced over and i was like "OH GOD!" i was so shocked, as far as i kno, he didnt take his time.
Brians run as i said had me on the edge of the seat.
Levis run i was laughing @ all the flips and i was amazed
Luci has a pretty good run, but we all called it
Kevins run... uhhhhh idk didnt see it
olivia we all called it, sextuple steps
takeda did 5 stages amazing, hes great
i saw the last part bunpies run seemed good
nagano killed everything till the final ring amazing
great tourny overall
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Post by dwizzo on Sept 20, 2008 8:23:00 GMT -5
I'm wondering something... Nagnao was resting on the green bar, and he could reach out and grab the ring right? COuldn't he have pushed off of the green bar with his legs and gotten like halfway down? That would've been smart... YES!!! I was saying the exact same thing to my girl... However, I think he did try and do this, but he didn't expect the ring to stick so much... Watch him do the run again, you'll see he jumps with his legs, but the ring sticks and he gets snapped/jerked backwards... I'm surprised he didn't fall off there, and that's what probably sapped a lot of his energy... The key for the next competitor is to lift the ring off the track and jump that way you can get at least 1/3 of the way down the obstacle without having to hop along... Good eye! Hopefully Nagano is thinking the same thing for his next run, but even more hopeful, is that Sasuke oils/fixes that stupid "gliding" ring.... How can they call it "Gliding" when the last thing it does is glide? ARGH....
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Post by lars072 on Sept 20, 2008 10:39:05 GMT -5
It's possible, nagano almost had it, he latched the ring he just couldn't hold on fromt he shock of his last jump. if he had a little more energy he could've made it. Far from impossible, but very very hard. I think the Hang climbing took the most out of him. he was smiling before the jumping bars, but he just FLEW through those and even the Hang Climbing. but the faster you do it the harder it is. It didn't look like it was hard on him because it looked like he did it so easy, but his arms must've kille dhim after reaching the spider flip. When he hunched over you could tell his arms were in pain. That hang climbing is just a batch... is takes everything you've got left. I hope we see Nagano or someone else take on that Gliding Ring next time, but it will take something special just to get to that point. Remember that Nagano is the BEST and not many can do what he accomplished. Just because Takeda and Nagano got to whee they did dosn't mean many others will. Only a few top competitors have a chance IMO.
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Post by dwizzo on Sept 20, 2008 13:33:02 GMT -5
It's possible, nagano almost had it, he latched the ring he just couldn't hold on fromt he shock of his last jump. if he had a little more energy he could've made it. Far from impossible, but very very hard. I think the Hang climbing took the most out of him. he was smiling before the jumping bars, but he just FLEW through those and even the Hang Climbing. but the faster you do it the harder it is. It didn't look like it was hard on him because it looked like he did it so easy, but his arms must've kille dhim after reaching the spider flip. When he hunched over you could tell his arms were in pain. That hang climbing is just a batch... is takes everything you've got left. I hope we see Nagano or someone else take on that Gliding Ring next time, but it will take something special just to get to that point. Remember that Nagano is the BEST and not many can do what he accomplished. Just because Takeda and Nagano got to whee they did dosn't mean many others will. Only a few top competitors have a chance IMO. I give it about a 10% chance we'll see anyone get to the gliding ring next time... I bet the 1st stage will be harder (because of Levi p0wning it) and also minor changes to 2 and 3... Nagano is really the only one who can get that far (MAYBE Levi)... And even Nagano is prone to mistakes so I give him a 50% chance if the obstacles are unchanged in 22...
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Post by obakemono on Sept 20, 2008 13:56:23 GMT -5
I think there a few people who could potentially get that far, and Nagano is the most consistent performer out of all of them. There's still a high risk of error on the new course, though, and they'll probably put in some evil tweaks in the first stage.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Sept 20, 2008 15:05:15 GMT -5
I expect similar changes like from Sasuke 7-8. From Sasuke 5-7, the course stayed the same (similar to 19-21) and then they added a new first obstacle and a new bridge obstacle. So, I'd expect the Sextuple Step and Pole Maze to go just like the Barrel Climb and Balance Bridge did.
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Post by lars072 on Sept 21, 2008 1:21:47 GMT -5
I expect similar changes like from Sasuke 7-8. From Sasuke 5-7, the course stayed the same (similar to 19-21) and then they added a new first obstacle and a new bridge obstacle. So, I'd expect the Sextuple Step and Pole Maze to go just like the Barrel Climb and Balance Bridge did. Yes, and I would think that the Swing Ladder would go as well, but I thought the same for Sasuke 21 too. Stage 3 won't change, although I hope modifications are made to that damn "Gliding" Ring.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 21, 2008 11:47:54 GMT -5
Actually that IS a modification, the version before it was called the Final Ring and there was no notch to catch the bar at the end.
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Post by lars072 on Sept 22, 2008 10:32:55 GMT -5
Actually that IS a modification, the version before it was called the Final Ring and there was no notch to catch the bar at the end. Notch? Did the silly contraption even work? One of the dumbest obstacles in the history of Sasuke IMO.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 22, 2008 10:55:01 GMT -5
They made it to catch the ring so you can swing, and we don't know, right as Nagano got in it he fell off the ring.
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Post by alphabater on Sept 22, 2008 18:44:51 GMT -5
i think they should get rid of the arm rings
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Post by Yojimbo on Sept 22, 2008 22:04:49 GMT -5
no way, thats the intial obstacle to kill the arm stamina.
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Post by supernovamaniac on Sept 23, 2008 21:53:05 GMT -5
Removing arm rings is just stupid... it has been there for ages, and it have done its job killing people's arm strength.
IMO, Swing ladder could stay since it killed some time on Lee Enchi. For others, it is just short obstacle, but it depends on who attacks it. It MIGHT stay.
As of Stage 1, just because Levi crushed it doesn't mean it will have major changes. Other people beat it at a regular time. But the truth was that many people passed stage 1. I personally think pole maze should be removed, but Monster 9 will definately put it up there, as it killed some people's run/time.
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