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Post by Homeslice on Aug 7, 2009 0:45:27 GMT -5
Seeing as there's threads for Akiyama and Yamada....Yamamoto's another who's struggled lately.
If he can get past his mental mistakes and clear Stage 1 this time....how far do you think he can go? I think he may make it back to Stage 3, but more likely it'll be Stage 2. Really, his only barrier would be the Salmon Ladder since he's never tried it. Well, he's never tried the Downhill Jump either but I don't see him failing that. In Stage 3 (if he makes it there), he'll probably bow out on the Shin-Cliff Hanger, if nothing else because he also has never cleared version 3 of the Cliff Hanger (Sasukes 9-17) - only All-Star to never clear it. But this is all just IMO. And it all comes down to this: I just want him to clear Stage 1 again.
How about you guys?
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Post by scnoi1217 on Aug 7, 2009 9:45:47 GMT -5
I'd like him to clear Stage 1 as well.
If he managed to do that, I could see him clearing Stage 2. He's beaten the Salmon Ladder at Muscle Park, so I think he could beat the real thing. The Metal Spin or anything probably wouldn't give him trouble. Only time/Wall Lift would.
If he doesn't time out, then I think in the Third Stage, he would make it to the Shin-Cliffhanger, but that's it.
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Post by artyfowljr on Aug 7, 2009 11:38:55 GMT -5
probably he would go deep in third stage but not complete it. I do have some doubts for the downhill jump, because he's tall (in japanese standards), and often tall= less balance. Not to talk about the fact that his balance someway messed up in recent times (HPA deaths). Anyway, even with this little problem he could do it if he's careful.
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Post by quasikoz on Aug 7, 2009 16:13:51 GMT -5
Sadly, I could see Shingo failing the Stick Slider. The coordination it takes to beat that thing is something Shingo has obviously been lacking with all the mental errors he's piling up.
That being said, I think all of us would love to see the guy go deep. I'm a fan for sure, so I hate dissing him like that. I'll just keep my fingers crossed when it's his turn on the course.
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Post by Anshin on Aug 7, 2009 16:45:34 GMT -5
Sadly, I could see Shingo failing the Stick Slider. The coordination it takes to beat that thing is something Shingo has obviously been lacking with all the mental errors he's piling up. That being said, I think all of us would love to see the guy go deep. I'm a fan for sure, so I hate dissing him like that. I'll just keep my fingers crossed when it's his turn on the course. I'd have to agree here. I'd love to see Shingo get to at least the third stage, and as my favorite All-Star, I hate to say that he might fail the slider...
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Post by chackpop on Aug 7, 2009 21:37:48 GMT -5
I think Yamamoto might be able to overcome the Cliff Hanger. Last time he ever attempted the CH was in 9 or 12. With Body Prop and Curtain Cling gone, he might be less tired and overcome the SCH. After that its smooth sailing for Yamamoto.
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Post by Homeslice on Aug 8, 2009 10:37:10 GMT -5
He didn't attempt it in 9 (he failed the Rumbling Dice - painfully). It was in 11 and 12, and he never made it past the second gap. (In 12, actually, he failed before the first gap.)
In Stage 3, he's never had trouble with the Globe Grasp and, assuming they're still there, the descending version won't be too big a deal for him. The Devil Steps might be tougher but I think he can handle those. It's really the SCH I'm worried about.
And oh, I don't see him, as weird as this may sound, failing the Stick Slider. I think everyone took notice of Okuyama's screw-up in 20. But that's just me.
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Post by obakemono on Aug 8, 2009 11:21:51 GMT -5
It's barely even possible to fail the Stick Slider anymore, unless you badly misjudge the landing distance.
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Post by SRW on Aug 8, 2009 14:44:35 GMT -5
It's barely even possible to fail the Stick Slider anymore, unless you badly misjudge the landing distance. I think he means the slider jump. I'm bored of these threads now so im gonna save a load of time if insert name passes stage 1 lol...... Nagano - final stage Takeda - cliff hanger/hang climbing Shingo - salmon ladder Akiyama - metal spin Yamada won't pass but time up stage 2 Bunpei - 3rd stage cliff hanger
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Post by TCM on Aug 8, 2009 14:48:58 GMT -5
It's barely even possible to fail the Stick Slider anymore, unless you badly misjudge the landing distance. I think he means the slider jump. He said in 20, where the bar from the stick slider slid off, Slider Jump wasn't until 22 and he made the third stage in 22 at that.
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Post by artyfowljr on Aug 8, 2009 15:51:40 GMT -5
lol I just though a thing about the descending globe grasp...do you know how exactly is Shingo tall? Because I saw Sasuke 20 again today, and realized that Levi's feet nearly touched the water below. What if Shingo...
Ah, I don't want to think about that, really.
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Post by SRW on Aug 8, 2009 16:04:39 GMT -5
You cannot really fail the stick slider now unless you let go through exhaustion or mis judge the drop to the mat.
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Post by Badalight on Aug 9, 2009 3:46:04 GMT -5
If shingo passes stage 1 I see him encountering a lot of problems in stage 2 and beyond. I have no doubts that he can beat the salmon ladder, wall lift, and metal spin.
BUT, the downhill jumpa nd time limit will be really tough on him.
Not only that, but in stage 3 I have very large doubts that he'll be able to beat the SCH. In all of the festival events and muscle park appearances he's amde I've never once seen him bea tit, he's always one of the ones who fails (Usually along with Yamada)
So that said, I have doubts he'll pass stage 1, then I have doubts he'll pass stage 2, and then I ahve doubts he can beat the SCH in stage 3.
Though, if he's having a REALLY good day I know SHingo can do it. He just has to be a bit lucky and not screw up like he's been lately.
He has a lot of potential, just needs to get his head in the game.
I bet he could easily make it to stage 3 regularly, but passing stage 3 would be a problem for him. If it weren't for his silly mistakes I believe he'd make it far.
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Post by bigblind168 on Aug 12, 2009 21:24:26 GMT -5
why r people saying he's gonna have a tough time with the time?! in shin stage 1 hes had SO much time left its been unbelievable, he's had LEVI time left when he failed.
and withs Stage 2's insanely leanent time limit i dont think thtd be a problem for him
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 12, 2009 22:24:56 GMT -5
I have to agree with bngdibli on this one. As much as it pains me to suggest anyone slows down on the course after all the Time Outs last time, I think it'd be in Shingo's best interest.
Come to think of it, it'd be interesting to compare Shingo Yamamoto and Levi Meeuwenberg's time remaining at each First Stage Obstacle for the last three tournaments. Hmm...
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Post by bigblind168 on Aug 12, 2009 22:51:24 GMT -5
fun things now
SASUKE 20:
when grabbing rope of HPA:
Shingo : 66.7 Levi: 68.6
21 when sitting on the flyng chute
Shingo: 56.0 Levi: 58.1
22 when reaching the plank
Shingo: 67.8 Levi: 68.8
so shingo is about 1.5 seconds behind, no doubt the fastest competitor out there. So time is never a problem for shingo
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Post by Homeslice on Aug 21, 2009 23:41:44 GMT -5
No, it's not. He's still got the speed. Realistically enough (depending on time limit, really, but let's assume it's 120 seconds for SASUKE 23 again), if Shingo can avoid a mistake, I think he's certainly going on to at least Stage 2.
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Post by intelligentinfer on Nov 4, 2009 21:37:42 GMT -5
You cannot really fail the stick slider now unless you let go through exhaustion or mis judge the drop to the mat. Or spend too much time on the Salmon Ladder and time out there.
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Post by Homeslice on Nov 5, 2009 9:49:22 GMT -5
You cannot really fail the stick slider now unless you let go through exhaustion or mis judge the drop to the mat. In other words, pull an Okuyama (as I like to call it). Good to see Shingo make it far again, but it's a bummer that his shoulder ended his run again.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Nov 6, 2009 19:11:28 GMT -5
lol I just though a thing about the descending globe grasp...do you know how exactly is Shingo tall? Because I saw Sasuke 20 again today, and realized that Levi's feet nearly touched the water below. What if Shingo... Ah, I don't want to think about that, really. You also got to notice Levi had his arms completely extended and not bent like they should be, and he still had some room to work with. Shingo probably wouldn't fail like that
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