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Post by evan on Feb 24, 2016 0:21:06 GMT -5
It's completely dependent on the venue rules. Only Venice allowed overnighting in ANW7. Only thing you can do is play it by ear and hope casting is forthcoming with information/is helpful. EDIT: Wait, camping might have been allowed in KC. Can't remember. Either way, it's a site-by-site case. I have a feeling that overnight is not gonna be allowed this year in LA. I think this makes things a bit more complicated for maintaining order in the walk on line, but I could be wrong. Also, it's a lot easier for those who live nearby and can sleep/shower home. But I'm sure there are cheap places near the location that perhaps a few walk on ninjas can share. Just putting it out there if I don't get a call for LA I'm going as a walk on.
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Post by evan on Feb 24, 2016 0:21:32 GMT -5
In Oklahoma City, it's just a seven minute drive from my company's OKC branch (and I'm sure we have a couch there I could crash on if overnighting is not permitted—and I highly doubt it will be) to the filming site. good deal bro!
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Post by ninjavern on Mar 1, 2016 14:07:04 GMT -5
It seems a few of them will be on private property thus, no overnighting is allowed. The form will stay. They did mention in a tweet if your caught at the location before they officially open walk-on lines you will be disqualified from participating. Seemed strange to me because thats how most people will find out anyways but just be careful. I've never seen them say anything like that before so obviously somebody is wanting them to tighten the rules. Just be careful Ninja's.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 1, 2016 14:23:40 GMT -5
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Post by evan on Mar 1, 2016 22:56:42 GMT -5
IMO they should have a ninja challenge / competition amongst all walk ons and take the top 25. That makes the most sense to me. So people show up a few days before, run a mini course or try a challenge and the top 25 are the selected walk ons, It makes more sense to get the strongest vs the ones that have more time off work/ less obligations etc etc. That's just my opinion. And everyone knows how easy is to put up ninja challenges!
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Post by evan on Mar 1, 2016 22:59:24 GMT -5
and I don't understand how they will disqualify people. They will guard the place waiting for walk ons to disqualify them? lol
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Post by arsenette on Mar 1, 2016 23:50:53 GMT -5
IMO they should have a ninja challenge / competition amongst all walk ons and take the top 25. That makes the most sense to me. So people show up a few days before, run a mini course or try a challenge and the top 25 are the selected walk ons, It makes more sense to get the strongest vs the ones that have more time off work/ less obligations etc etc. That's just my opinion. And everyone knows how easy is to put up ninja challenges! While I appreciate the enthusiasm.. you want a trials of a trials of a trials.. That doesn't make sense.. It's a TV show and they have 50,000+ people willing to participate when you are at work. This isn't about being the best.. it's about being on a TV show.
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Post by blah123 on Mar 2, 2016 1:37:46 GMT -5
From what I've heard, a physical competition to determine walk-ons would be difficult due to liability reasons. They would need people to sign waivers, have medical people present, etc. etc. As simple as it sounds, they could actually get sued if somebody got hurt. Imagine handing out clipboards with waivers to 1000 people, and having to manage that. No thanks.
There have, of course, been several other pretty good solutions presented. Fingers crossed they actually take notice this season (doubt it).
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Post by evan on Mar 2, 2016 12:54:03 GMT -5
Yea I see the issue, I had in mind max 50 walk ons which was the case for Venice last year if I remember right, then they put up a sign saying they won't accommodate more or something like that (still only about 25 ran the course), you'll still need to show up early but only few days not weeks.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 2, 2016 14:11:30 GMT -5
Yea I see the issue, I had in mind max 50 walk ons which was the case for Venice last year if I remember right, then they put up a sign saying they won't accommodate more or something like that (still only about 25 ran the course), you'll still need to show up early but only few days not weeks. Contractually there's a legal maximum of 25 Walk Ons, 100 invites and 25 spots to use at producers discretion. Their own legally binding rules stop them from having more than 25 walk ons. so if there's a "maximum" line I'd say 30-35 to have alternatives
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Post by arsenette on Mar 2, 2016 16:36:32 GMT -5
Yea I see the issue, I had in mind max 50 walk ons which was the case for Venice last year if I remember right, then they put up a sign saying they won't accommodate more or something like that (still only about 25 ran the course), you'll still need to show up early but only few days not weeks. Contractually there's a legal maximum of 25 Walk Ons, 100 invites and 25 spots to use at producers discretion. Their own legally binding rules stop them from having more than 25 walk ons. so if there's a "maximum" line I'd say 30-35 to have alternatives Be happy that there IS a law of walk ons. California is the only state that has that law in the USA. Hell.. there isn't that law in Japan and there are ZERO walk ons in Sasuke.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 2, 2016 22:08:55 GMT -5
Contractually there's a legal maximum of 25 Walk Ons, 100 invites and 25 spots to use at producers discretion. Their own legally binding rules stop them from having more than 25 walk ons. so if there's a "maximum" line I'd say 30-35 to have alternatives Be happy that there IS a law of walk ons. California is the only state that has that law in the USA. Hell.. there isn't that law in Japan and there are ZERO walk ons in Sasuke. I mean technically it's NBC who set that own walk on rules but it's their own contract technically, but it is legally binding (since it's in the same forms that have the rules, nda, liability waiver, all that stuff)
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Post by evan on Mar 3, 2016 5:03:59 GMT -5
Contractually there's a legal maximum of 25 Walk Ons, 100 invites and 25 spots to use at producers discretion. Their own legally binding rules stop them from having more than 25 walk ons. so if there's a "maximum" line I'd say 30-35 to have alternatives Be happy that there IS a law of walk ons. California is the only state that has that law in the USA. Hell.. there isn't that law in Japan and there are ZERO walk ons in Sasuke. is there an actual law specific to walk ons for shows like anw?
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Post by arsenette on Mar 3, 2016 10:22:06 GMT -5
Be happy that there IS a law of walk ons. California is the only state that has that law in the USA. Hell.. there isn't that law in Japan and there are ZERO walk ons in Sasuke. is there an actual law specific to walk ons for shows like anw? No. Walk ons are forbidden in Japan. Only Hollywood would come up with a stupid law like that.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 3, 2016 10:54:17 GMT -5
is there an actual law specific to walk ons for shows like anw? No. Walk ons are forbidden in Japan. Only Hollywood would come up with a stupid law like that. I think he was asking about the california law that requires it
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Post by arsenette on Mar 3, 2016 11:01:33 GMT -5
No. Walk ons are forbidden in Japan. Only Hollywood would come up with a stupid law like that. I think he was asking about the california law that requires it The specificity of it? Sorry I'm dense this morning...
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 3, 2016 11:03:44 GMT -5
I think he was asking about the california law that requires it The specificity of it? Sorry I'm dense this morning... I'm not sure what he was asking in regards to the california walk on line thing, looks like proof it exists based on the post but I may be wrong
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Post by arsenette on Mar 3, 2016 11:07:08 GMT -5
The specificity of it? Sorry I'm dense this morning... I'm not sure what he was asking in regards to the california walk on line thing, looks like proof it exists based on the post but I may be wrong Oh it exists. This has existed for years. Heck.. it's existed before ANC which is why when anything came through Venice you saw the infamous "walk on" line. I think he may be tongue in cheek asking if there is specific text describing HOW they have to enforce it. Now that I'm awake more I get the joke.
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Post by thebra on Mar 3, 2016 13:17:16 GMT -5
So the walk-on line seems to have gotten even more crazy this year. I like the previously mentioned idea of the lottery but I get the whole argument that you may miss out on strong competitors but at this point, the show is going to miss out on strong competitors no matter what it does. Its just so popular now and with training facilities all over the place, there is never going to be a shortage of great athletes who don't get to compete.
Anyway, my two suggestions (which I know will have flaws in it as well) are relatively simple. To cut down on the ridiculous time people are spending lining up before production even shows up, and thus creating a line for a line, why doesn't casting just wait until like a week or whenever they're ready before the filming to release the location of where they want potential walk-ons to meet, instead of it being at the actual venue? Have a few people from production there ready to take down the first 40 or so names. Once they have their list, then the walk-ons can go to the designated spot at the venue and follow the guidelines established by casting/production such as the times they must be in the line. Now instead of people having to take 2 weeks+ off work, it'll instead be a mad dash to a secret location. Are there still flaws? Sure, but at least people with jobs that can't take off 2 weeks plus still have a shot, they just have to be willing to drop everything at a moment's notice and head to the meeting spot.
My other suggestion, is to do away with the walk-on line entirely (with the exception of California, cause you know, its the law) and instead replace the walk-on people with the top NNL finals competitors who didn't get callbacks. Start at the top and just go down the list until you fill in about 20 spots. That way you would have people that are dedicated to the sport (traveling to their "local gym" and then to NJ for the finals) but also very deserving based upon their performances. At least NBC doesn't have to actually organize trials of trials but I suppose the biggest hurdle would be the all liability and legalities involved in such a partnership. But I feel like that would certainly help grow the NNL, help out ninja gyms, and allow the stronger athletes who didn't get callbacks a chance to still get on the show based upon performance.
Just my two cents. Good luck to the people who do attempt to walk-on and I hope your dedication ends up paying off.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 3, 2016 13:26:49 GMT -5
My other suggestion, is to do away with the walk-on line entirely (with the exception of California, cause you know, its the law) and instead replace the walk-on people with the top NNL finals competitors who didn't get callbacks. Sounds like a great idea however they can't unevenly apply the law to one region of the country than the other. When they included California to the pool of competitors, they had to apply that law evenly across the production. As a result, by law, they have to have walk ons in every region of the country. This has been a question ever since the Walk ons where a thing back in Venice Beach way back in ANW1. The competitors in the other regions wanted a crack at it and that's where the law was spelled out that if a production chooses to go that route and include talent from California the entire production should follow suit. Ultimately the competitors where happy because they had an even chance to try to get a walk on after they were rejected during the casting process. We also got some crazy famous ANW competitors that all started on that line. They can't get rid of it now even if they wanted to. That said, I love the NNL idea but that would require NBC taking over that grass roots production. I don't think anyone would be happy with that when they really think about it. As it is now, it's not affiliated with NBC and they are allowed just like any other gym to operate under the Ninja Warrior name without making money off it. Once it becomes an official production all of those rules apply and you lose the special aspect of that event. Also, NBC will have to take over production so they can document where those NNL finalists came from making it more expensive since they now have to officially document it with NBC employees. That's yet another production on top of it (hence my trials of a trials of a trials comment). You can theoretically have someone that had to go through 4 competitions before even touching the Vegas course. That's.. insane.
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