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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 31, 2009 19:50:00 GMT -5
Yes, and that's also why I kept asking "did we see any Slider Jump digested fails" so often, just in case I missed one.
That said, nobody said "yes", so I only know of 9 total, including digests I saw.
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Post by Lennon on Apr 1, 2009 0:24:21 GMT -5
As of right now, I still do not like the new obstacle 'circle hammer.' To me it's pretty boring and would rather have the pole maze or something different, but I won't complain about that too much.
I do indeed like the Slider jump, though imagin if they move the flying chute to like.. the second stage or something. Or add it right after the Slider jump. That would be insane.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 1, 2009 1:24:39 GMT -5
Alright, I re-watched Stage 1, and I counted 12, including a cluster of 3 digested Slider Jump fails I don't remember, so I'm fairly confident about the number "12" for Slider Jump fails and "9" for passes (4 of which led to really painful-to-watch "Time Up"s.
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Post by gtoneko on Apr 1, 2009 2:51:23 GMT -5
To have the circle hammer as the 2nd obstacle wasn't too bad, but it can become a time waster since the island to land on isn't so solid/firm. That's the first thing that occurred to me (well, it was just about the first thing I saw). That island was so spongy and so unstable I'm surprised people didn't wipe out right there. For all we know, some might have. I remember thinking landing on that thing just floating there was a good way to pop an ankle. Yeah, in one of the digests, they did show on guy getting knocked out by it, so at least it proves that one slip with it being not really firm/solid, it can mess people up.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 1, 2009 10:36:57 GMT -5
I also realized that quite a few people just thought it was the metal spin in the first stage and ran really hard at it causing all kinds of hilarity.. if you noticed the "pros" they just did it niiiiiiiiice and easy.
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Post by Lennon on Apr 1, 2009 10:43:35 GMT -5
That's the way to do it. Some leaped to the rope when like Nagano, just kind of leaned over and grabbed it.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 1, 2009 10:59:09 GMT -5
I'm trying to remember who it was that started the soft thing.. I know Luci did.
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Post by jfeathe on Apr 1, 2009 13:28:24 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts on the new obstacles:
Circle Hammer: A fun idea, but really just a time waster. After people stopped jumping for the rope, I realized how easy it was. Luci did really good in not having to swing further around before landing on the foam platform.
Slider Jump: A fast-paced obstacle that took out some of the best. It's not as fun as the Flying Chute in my opinion, but probably a bit more difficult. My strategy would be to reach out with one arm, catch the rope then reach out the second arm.
"New" Gliding Ring: I believe that this is the intended version. Although much easier, Yuji's jump truly was perfect and will be difficult to repeat.
Final Stage: A bit too easy in my opinion. Yuji reached the 10 meter rope with 28 or so seconds left on the clock. When you consider that the original final stage was a 15 meter rope climb in 30 seconds, it's easy to see how beatable it is. I don't think that the exhaustion from a ladder climb equals a reduction of 5 meters. However, the exhaustion throughout the day is a factor easily overlooked by viewers.
I'm truly shocked by the retention of the Swing Ladder. Either a drastic decrease in time or a thorough overhaul of Stag two is in order.
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Post by Badalight on Apr 1, 2009 14:01:22 GMT -5
Circle Hammer: A fun idea, but really just a time waster. After people stopped jumping for the rope, I realized how easy it was. Luci did really good in not having to swing further around before landing on the foam platform. Slider Jump: A fast-paced obstacle that took out some of the best. It's not as fun as the Flying Chute in my opinion, but probably a bit more difficult. My strategy would be to reach out with one arm, catch the rope then reach out the second arm. "New" Gliding Ring: I believe that this is the intended version. Although much easier, Yuji's jump truly was perfect and will be difficult to repeat. Final Stage: A bit too easy in my opinion. Yuji reached the 10 meter rope with 28 or so seconds left on the clock. When you consider that the original final stage was a 15 meter rope climb in 30 seconds, it's easy to see how beatable it is. I don't think that the exhaustion from a ladder climb equals a reduction of 5 meters. However, the exhaustion throughout the day is a factor easily overlooked by viewers. I'm truly shocked by the retention of the Swing Ladder. Either a drastic decrease in time or a thorough overhaul of Stag two is in order. Just thought I'd mention a few things, I mostly agree with you though. Circle Hammer: It's only meant to nbe a time waster, not an obstacle that many people fail on. There's a reason why it's a time waster. Remember the pole maze? That was an easy obstacle, it's only real use was to waste time. Circle hammer replaced it so it only makes sense if this was a time waster aswell. Slider Jump: Im not sure your technique would work. The net is pretty far out so reaching with one hand probably won't make it, and if oyu mean when you jump you'llonly grab it with one hand that's a bit stupid... because 1 hand isn't going to hold your entirebody weight when your momentum is falling downwards. And it didn't work for Nagano. Gliding Ring: People seem to think Yuuji's jump was "perfect". I don't see why peopel are praising his jump so much. Yeah he did a great job passing stage 3, but that was just a normal jump... there's nothing special about it. Infact, just by going downt he gliding ring he built up most of his momentum, he barely had to build any momentum himself. It's just as easy obstacle. The gap isn't that far away... I do those kinds of jumps all the time. I gurantee if I made it to the final ring then I'd be able to pass stage 3 no matter how tired I was, it's just that easy, one of the easiest obtsacles in all 4 stages, only losing to the swing ladder, circle hammer, and the sextuple steps. I'm not saying I could beat stage 3, but if I DID make it to the gliding ring, nothing would stop me, because it's just an easy obstacle. It doesn't fit with the rest of stage 3, it takes barely any strength to hold onto that thing. I'm actually building a replica, but a harder version that is straight so instead of just gliding you have to push it like the pipe slider.
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Post by jfeathe on Apr 1, 2009 14:09:52 GMT -5
Circle Hammer: A fun idea, but really just a time waster. After people stopped jumping for the rope, I realized how easy it was. Luci did really good in not having to swing further around before landing on the foam platform. Slider Jump: A fast-paced obstacle that took out some of the best. It's not as fun as the Flying Chute in my opinion, but probably a bit more difficult. My strategy would be to reach out with one arm, catch the rope then reach out the second arm. "New" Gliding Ring: I believe that this is the intended version. Although much easier, Yuji's jump truly was perfect and will be difficult to repeat. Final Stage: A bit too easy in my opinion. Yuji reached the 10 meter rope with 28 or so seconds left on the clock. When you consider that the original final stage was a 15 meter rope climb in 30 seconds, it's easy to see how beatable it is. I don't think that the exhaustion from a ladder climb equals a reduction of 5 meters. However, the exhaustion throughout the day is a factor easily overlooked by viewers. I'm truly shocked by the retention of the Swing Ladder. Either a drastic decrease in time or a thorough overhaul of Stag two is in order. Just thought I'd mention a few things, I mostly agree with you though. Circle Hammer: It's only meant to nbe a time waster, not an obstacle that many people fail on. There's a reason why it's a time waster. Remember the pole maze? That was an easy obstacle, it's only real use was to waste time. Circle hammer replaced it so it only makes sense if this was a time waster aswell. Slider Jump: Im not sure your technique would work. The net is pretty far out so reaching with one hand probably won't make it, and if oyu mean when you jump you'llonly grab it with one hand that's a bit stupid... because 1 hand isn't going to hold your entirebody weight when your momentum is falling downwards. And it didn't work for Nagano. Gliding Ring: People seem to think Yuuji's jump was "perfect". I don't see why peopel are praising his jump so much. Yeah he did a great job passing stage 3, but that was just a normal jump... there's nothing special about it. Infact, just by going downt he gliding ring he built up most of his momentum, he barely had to build any momentum himself. It's just as easy obstacle. The gap isn't that far away... I do those kinds of jumps all the time. I gurantee if I made it to the final ring then I'd be able to pass stage 3 no matter how tired I was, it's just that easy, one of the easiest obtsacles in all 4 stages, only losing to the swing ladder, circle hammer, and the sextuple steps. I'm not saying I could beat stage 3, but if I DID make it to the gliding ring, nothing would stop me, because it's just an easy obstacle. It doesn't fit with the rest of stage 3, it takes barely any strength to hold onto that thing. I'm actually building a replica, but a harder version that is straight so instead of just gliding you have to push it like the pipe slider. On the Slider Jump, I meant to say release the bar one hand at a time, but grab the net with both hands at the same time. This way you can get a small swing in.
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Post by Oti on Apr 2, 2009 3:53:46 GMT -5
I don't know if I agree with the whole "you feel the effects of the entire day" thing. You regain a majoirty (well over 90%) of your strength after a mere 45 minute rest. I don't believe you still feel stage one when you start stage three.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 2, 2009 4:31:40 GMT -5
The Circle Hammer is awkward and not even as hard as the pole maze.
I really like it, but I also liked the Butterfly Wall and Log Ramp for the same reason: the non-competitive contestants.
Granted, the Sextuple Steps knock out a LOT of the joke contestants, but just throwing the few that make it immediately into the water with the Log Grip makes that small victory seem pointless. By putting in a second obstacle with a level of difficulty aimed at those people, you get the "oh wait, will the Obama impersonator pass *this* obstacle?" entertainment instead of the "okay, grats on the steps, drop now" feeling.
It's a minor inconvenience for the serious competitors, but then again, so was the Pole Maze, so no harm done. Good job, Circle Hammer.
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Post by gazzawhite on Apr 5, 2009 17:06:26 GMT -5
I didn't mind the gliding ring actually, you know, gliding, but if they could change it so that you had to build up your own momentum (from virtually stationary) at the bottom, it would be even better. Maybe put a little bump near the end, that takes out most of your speed. Then the tension builds as you increase the arc of your swing, in your attempt to land on the platform.
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Post by gtoneko on Apr 6, 2009 23:52:52 GMT -5
I don't know if I agree with the whole "you feel the effects of the entire day" thing. You regain a majoirty (well over 90%) of your strength after a mere 45 minute rest. I don't believe you still feel stage one when you start stage three. You can, but it all depends from person to person. Don't forget, Hitoshi Kanno got DQ'ed since he did get exhausted after the whole thing on the Spider Flip.
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Post by jfeathe on Apr 7, 2009 15:10:21 GMT -5
I don't think exhaustion occurs from the stages themselves, but instead the length of the day. Just standing around from 9am to 1 am is exhausting, but throwing in 4 extreme courses is brutal.
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Post by chackpop on Apr 7, 2009 15:21:48 GMT -5
30 seconds would be impossible srw, if it was 30 seconds, yuuji only would had have 10 seconds to beat a 10 meter climb
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Post by SRW on Apr 7, 2009 16:43:57 GMT -5
35 seconds is a fair time
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Post by chackpop on Apr 7, 2009 17:08:04 GMT -5
35 is the best time, but they wouldn't change it. If they changed it, it would mean the producers were not prepared. We'll see if its good when other people reach the final stage
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Post by arsenette on Apr 7, 2009 17:19:29 GMT -5
Yeah with our luck the producers will piss us all off and change everything again ahahahaha
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Post by SRW on Apr 7, 2009 18:16:46 GMT -5
they could get away with it in 23 making it 35 seconds but say they left it at 45 for like 3 more tournys and then changed it to 35 then that would not be fair.
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