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Post by cliffhanger on Dec 31, 2014 6:04:15 GMT -5
What is the hardest third stage in first 30 tournaments of Sasuke? If you are not sure, check it on wiki. Last tournament just added.
It was in 25th tournament in my opinion, but 14, 19 or 27 were challenging as well. Number two is probably 30 or 27. I'd like to see new stars facing body prop. It is an obstacle the weren't training for like new super extra cliffhangers for all stars. It is an extraordinary obstacle and it should be put back (and it should happen according to description on Sasukepedia that speaks about obstacle comebacks (maybe it is thought for whole Rising). It is one of the hardest old obstacles. As for cliffhangers, Crazy version seems to be slightly more difficult but less funny to watch (it's shorter ). Also the change Shin -> ultimate was more cruel than ultimate -> crazy. Not sure about Floating Boards. It seems insanely difficult. It is draining finger strenght like hell! More than Cycling Road for sure. But Vertical Limit and Drum Hopper speaks for 28 - 30, probably 30.
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Post by blah123 on Dec 31, 2014 7:30:00 GMT -5
I put 28-30 solely because of the CCH and VL. 25/26 was tough, but I doesn't look nearly as hard now as it did when it was new. I doubt people like Yuuji, Ryo, Yusuke, Tomohiro, or even some Americans, would have much of a problem on 25/26 if they tried it now.
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Post by Shuberb674 on Dec 31, 2014 8:01:48 GMT -5
I voted 25/26 but I'd say 26 was the hardest in history.
While they made the infamous 3rd cliffhanger ledge lower, the put drops in the roulette cylinder and put cycling road (a grip strength zapper) right before the UCH. And then there's those crazy last 3 obstacles. 4 swing circles is tough, the bungee ropes not so much. But that 5 jump flying bar!!! What a way to end a torturous stage. No one would've passed that in 5 tournaments let alone the 2 (aside from that pesky pipe jump) it took to beat the Rising 3rd stage.
Thats why I put my money on 26.
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Post by cliffhanger on Dec 31, 2014 8:27:33 GMT -5
Floating Boards require probably more grip strenght than Cycling Road. So 25 is tougher. Also I thought they wanted to make 26's 3rd stage easier because the previous was as unbeatable as banzuke
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Post by gt4dom on Dec 31, 2014 10:17:32 GMT -5
Although this is a bit wierd I could argue for people like Yuuji that Tournament 1 would be harder, I could see the Pillar Path having a greater chance of taking down some people than some of the upper body obstacles. But realistically, I think Tournament 30 was the hardest, it just needed the Pipe Slider ending fixed!!!
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Post by SasukeForever on Dec 31, 2014 11:44:23 GMT -5
25 Shocking layout completely different to what they had seen before, plus it was freezing cold, making it near-impossible.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Dec 31, 2014 12:27:38 GMT -5
I would say Sasuke 26. Sasuke 25 had the shock value going for it but as for the pure obstacles themselves, 26 had to be the most challenging yet. The only thing that could make it more challenging would be the Body Prop. I don't think the Floating Boards in 25 were as difficult as the ones in ANW, and even though the Cycling Road seemed easier, it was actually a really, really tough obstacle to come directly before the UCH. ESPECIALLY with the new drops in the Roulette Cylinder and the really slippery doorknobs that everyone had trouble with.
The temperature was very cold in 25 which made it very difficult for everyone, but still, even after all of that time to prepare for the UCH and the other obstacles, we didn't even get a whiff of the second half of the stage.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Dec 31, 2014 14:14:14 GMT -5
26's was the hardest IMO followed closely by 14/15.
This thread makes me realise how annoyed I am that they dumbed down the 3rd stage in 27.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Jan 1, 2015 0:30:45 GMT -5
Let me introduce the Ultimate Cliffhanger. Yeah I picked 25 for sure. UCH kills all until it was softboiled in 27. O.O
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Post by SasukeForever on Jan 1, 2015 11:06:53 GMT -5
Let me introduce the Ultimate Cliffhanger. Yeah I picked 25 for sure. UCH kills all until it was softboiled in 27. O.O Sure they made the whole stage easier, but in 25 no one had any idea of how to beat it and in 26 all the guys who trained for it failed earlier. In 27, Yuuji, Ryo, and Kouji all trained for it. It became second nature to them.
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Post by Shuberb674 on Jan 1, 2015 12:36:48 GMT -5
Let me introduce the Ultimate Cliffhanger. Yeah I picked 25 for sure. UCH kills all until it was softboiled in 27. O.O Nagano was the only Japanese man the UCH took out in 27 He nailed it in David Campbell's backyard though!
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Post by Amber on Jan 1, 2015 16:01:01 GMT -5
25 no doubt, that 3rd ledge on the UCH is nutttsss
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Post by jfeathe on Jan 1, 2015 17:49:01 GMT -5
25's was absurd. 26's tried to add a little relief to the pre-Cliff Hanger obstacles by replacing the Floating Boards with Cycle Road. However, they unnecessarily added drops to the Roulette Cylinder which I remember was very difficult to move and almost came off the track.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jan 2, 2015 12:58:17 GMT -5
And the guys who did the Doorknob Grasp in 25 and 26 had way more trouble on the 26 version. The only guy I remember passing 26's with relative ease was Okuyama.
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Post by jfeathe on Jan 2, 2015 17:17:32 GMT -5
And the guys who did the Doorknob Grasp in 25 and 26 had way more trouble on the 26 version. The only guy I remember passing 26's with relative ease was Okuyama. I completely forgot about that. There was a big discussion on here regarding whether the Doorknob Grasper was made more difficult or not, but I'm still convinced they altered the obstacle drastically. Still, I'd keep 25 ahead of 26 due to the impossible Cliff Hanger and the Floating Boards.
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Post by Madze on Jun 15, 2015 14:19:56 GMT -5
I think 28 has the hardest 3rd stage. The cch killed out everyone and the iron paddler just drained every bodys energy
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jun 15, 2015 22:23:50 GMT -5
I still think 26 takes it. Put Yuuji, Nagano, Ryo, anybody in there and I still don't think anyone makes it out alive. The sequence of obstacles was too difficult. I think Higuchi realized that it would be impossible and that the only way to ensure that there would AT LEAST be a final stage attempt (all he needed to set up a kanzenseiha) was to completely nerf everything that made it difficult. Not that 27's Third Stage was a cake walk, but comparatively, I don't think the third stage ever got more easy from one tournament to the next as much as it did from 26 to 27.
At least in 25 you had a Roulette Cylinder without drops and Floating Boards which you could use your feet on to take some of the weight off your hands. Roulette Cylinder with drops, much more turn-y doorknobs and ANOTHER hanging obstacle before the UCH (which was only the end of the FIRST HALF of the stage!)? Nobody came close... and that's something considering you had two former finalists who had experience with the same obstacles last year (Li and Okuyama) and who had the entire year to train for it, David Campbell who had mastered the UCH which he had in his backyard, Brian who had been improving every year, and two excellent rookies in Paul and Brent.
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Post by Amber on Jun 15, 2015 23:16:03 GMT -5
Now that I look back at it, I'm gonna pull for a tie on 25/26. Had the ledge been lowered in 25, the result wouldn't have been too different in all honesty.
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Post by skythenewark on Jun 15, 2015 23:29:56 GMT -5
I'm gonna go with 25.
If Yuuji, Kanno, & Possibly Shingo were to clear Stage 2, I would love to see them try the UCH. It's so HARD. I don't know if the 3rd ledge is so difficult, try the transition to the small ledge, It looks EXTREMELY hard. Someone is gonna be SUPER lucky if they even clear it. Someone should be glad it was made a little easier in 26/27.The Circle Cross in 25 is sure going to be tough, but don't forget the flying bar.
It's just my opinion though. But if i made a screw up, let me know.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jun 16, 2015 12:42:33 GMT -5
The Circle Cross in 25 is sure going to be tough, but don't forget the flying bar. I'm pretty sure you mean the Swing Circle. The Circle Cross was an obstacle from ANW5's Baltimore course that consisted of 3 arm ring sized rings and 2 ropes that you reach across and not jump
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