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Post by arsenette on Mar 19, 2011 1:15:51 GMT -5
Fast-forwarding and acknowledging their EXISTENCE is the key issue here. They did show the Americans that prevailed. G4 is NOT doing that.. they are deleting them from the broadcast in the way they did in 23.. and most likely amending results to the competition as if they weren't even a PART of the competition. THAT is my main problem. I have zero issues if they say "As you know from American Ninja Warrior" that Blah blah advanced here and whatnot.. just ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR EXISTENCE. That alone will settle the backlash. In 23 they didn't and even lied about how many passed stage 1, etc. and went to great lengths to hide the fact that 10 Americans were even IN Sasuke 23. The same will happen with 26 but their presence will be a HUGE gap given the results and the fact that entire TBS broadcast was USA vs. everyone else.. G4 is just STUPID to ignore that.. hell .. this broadcast was MADE for a G4 version.. and they.. blow it simply because they have their heads rammed for up their a$$ selling ANW in this country. While other countries (all 150+) will NEVER see this broadcast on their shores.. and why should they? It's an incomplete broadcast..
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Post by Badalight on Mar 19, 2011 8:44:20 GMT -5
This broadcast is going to look like 19... facebook will explode "THE COURSE IS TOO HARD, WEAH!".
Even though you know... 5 people made it to stage 3...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 10:17:22 GMT -5
This broadcast is going to look like 19... facebook will explode "THE COURSE IS TOO HARD, WEAH!". Even though you know... 5 people made it to stage 3... Not only is the broadcast gonna look like 19, but also the broadcast is probably gonna be only like two episodes. I'll be damned if G4 shows full runs that aren't the Americans. The last time they showed less than 5 episodes was during their SASUKE 19 broadcast I believe.
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Post by TCM on Mar 19, 2011 11:26:17 GMT -5
This broadcast is going to look like 19... facebook will explode "THE COURSE IS TOO HARD, WEAH!". Even though you know... 5 people made it to stage 3... but also the broadcast is probably gonna be only like two episodes. Reply 9.....look at it. Not to be defending G4 but more pointing out illogic. 19 was 3 episodes with 2 clears. 26 at least has 5 others to deal with. 19 also didn't have a 3rd Stage....26 has 2 they will use. It's gonna be at least 3 episodes...
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Post by yamfriend on Mar 19, 2011 15:55:48 GMT -5
but also the broadcast is probably gonna be only like two episodes. Reply 9.....look at it. Not to be defending G4 but more pointing out illogic. 19 was 3 episodes with 2 clears. 26 at least has 5 others to deal with. 19 also didn't have a 3rd Stage....26 has 2 they will use. It's gonna be at least 3 episodes... Although we know they can't, it would neat if G4 at least compensated for their "American-less" broadcast of 26 by showing some of the runs of the Japanese competitors that were cut from the TBS broadcast (especially Jun Sato since he's probably the most notable competitor that we don't know where he failed). Though I bet they probably wouldn't even if they could... Also I agree with G4Fan that we'll see 3 parts for G4's version of 26. However, since the TBS broadcast was shorter than most tournaments recently and had a good amount of focus on the ANW2 guys who cleared (as several people said before IIRC) they're probably going to have to literally use every other competitor's Stage 1 runs in order to complete the first 2 parts. The 3rd/final part will then probably just be the 4 non-American Stage 2 runs and the 2 non-American Stage 2 runs. And like a lot of you, I'm honestly more interested in how badly G4's going to butcher 26 than the broadcast's layout. XD
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Post by Badalight on Mar 19, 2011 16:48:23 GMT -5
yamfriend... they can't use footage that TBS didn't show. They don't have it. The footage they are given is pretty much what we watched as 26. Though actually... it has stuff taken out.
So the footage G4 has to work with is a shortened 26, and then they're further cutting it by taking away the americans.
Plus G4 doesn't show those half runs, or the fast forwards.
Essentially... g4 is going to have a really short tournament. I'd guess around the length of 20.
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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Mar 19, 2011 16:59:12 GMT -5
Fun for the whole family right? lmao. anyways I'm just waiting to see what G4 actually does. I'm possibly going to record it just so I can laugh at how badly they screw it up. haha
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 17:50:59 GMT -5
yamfriend... they can't use footage that TBS didn't show. They don't have it. The footage they are given is pretty much what we watched as 26. Though actually... it has stuff taken out. So the footage G4 has to work with is a shortened 26, and then they're further cutting it by taking away the americans. Plus G4 doesn't show those half runs, or the fast forwards. Essentially... g4 is going to have a really short tournament. I'd guess around the length of 20. Why is that a fact?
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Post by Badalight on Mar 19, 2011 18:22:44 GMT -5
yamfriend... they can't use footage that TBS didn't show. They don't have it. The footage they are given is pretty much what we watched as 26. Though actually... it has stuff taken out. So the footage G4 has to work with is a shortened 26, and then they're further cutting it by taking away the americans. Plus G4 doesn't show those half runs, or the fast forwards. Essentially... g4 is going to have a really short tournament. I'd guess around the length of 20. Why is that a fact? What are you talking about? Sasuke 26 was one of the shortest of the recent broadcasts. The footage that g4 gets is a shorter version of sasuke 26. Then G4 has to cut out the americans, which is a very big portion of the footage. PLUS G4 already edits out fast forwards and those weird half runs. So obviously G4 will end up with a very short show. How can you not understand that? It's simple...
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 19, 2011 18:31:00 GMT -5
Well one they don't get a shorter version of the broadcast.. they get the broadcast... And G4 does fast-forwards their own way (usually coming back from commercial or warrior wipeout/ninja killer) and middle cut runs do get shown more often than you think (They just don't usually show them).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 20:14:20 GMT -5
What are you talking about? Sasuke 26 was one of the shortest of the recent broadcasts. The footage that g4 gets is a shorter version of sasuke 26. Then G4 has to cut out the americans, which is a very big portion of the footage. PLUS G4 already edits out fast forwards and those weird half runs. So obviously G4 will end up with a very short show. How can you not understand that? It's simple... Because you don't know if G4 can request more than the Japanese broadcast has shown. Which they've done multiple times. You shouldn't assume that the Japanese broadcast is all G4 gets.
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Post by supersheep on Mar 19, 2011 20:40:52 GMT -5
TBS doesn't offer all the tape, they have different packages that are pre made and offered and sold to the other markets. So they can't just say "We want to see all 100 runs then we'll pick and choose." It doesn't work that way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 20:53:17 GMT -5
TBS doesn't offer all the tape, they have different packages that are pre made and offered and sold to the other markets. So they can't just say "We want to see all 100 runs then we'll pick and choose." It doesn't work that way. So how does G4 get all the extra bits with Olivia Munn, and some American guys? My point is we shouldn't just assume these things. I'm sure if G4 wants more episodes, they can figure out a way to get some extra footage.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 19, 2011 21:23:21 GMT -5
G4 has a special deal since it's their people probably.. Like wasn't that Charles Chen guy JET sent not in the main broadcasts but was in JET's broadcast? Or did I hear about that wrong?
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Post by Homeslice on Mar 19, 2011 23:16:48 GMT -5
Wow, G4. Just...wow.
Wittenberg's gonna make a big deal of this too: "ONLY 2 MEN MANAGED TO REACH STAGE 3 OMG!!!"
Between the delays and this unnecessary editing, though I'm PO'd, I honestly can't say I'm surprised at this.
(And next time the Americans compete and perhaps they're the only ones who freaking clear Stage 1, G4 will have a field day with this - "FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER NO ONE HAS CLEARED THE FIRST STAGE, WORST NW EVER LOLOL". Just...ugh.)
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Post by supersheep on Mar 20, 2011 0:30:49 GMT -5
TBS doesn't offer all the tape, they have different packages that are pre made and offered and sold to the other markets. So they can't just say "We want to see all 100 runs then we'll pick and choose." It doesn't work that way. So how does G4 get all the extra bits with Olivia Munn, and some American guys? My point is we shouldn't just assume these things. I'm sure if G4 wants more episodes, they can figure out a way to get some extra footage. I'm not 100% sure on what the terms on the arrangment with regards to ANW/Olivia but I think it's a pre done agreement. I know for a fact they cannot come in after the fact asking for all the footage. It's sold in packages.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 1:03:24 GMT -5
Look, it isn't a big deal. It's still f***ing stupid that they are making 26 not what it really is. That's all that really matters.
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Post by supersheep on Mar 20, 2011 2:05:56 GMT -5
Imagine how much time they spend reinventing the wheel by G4ing up the show? Just think how nice it would be if they just added subtitles and left the rest alone...? But that would be too easy...
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 20, 2011 12:56:29 GMT -5
To whoever at G4 thought this was a good idea we need to remind them of Sasuke 20 (Especially the fact in their broadcast they edited IN the part with Nagano and Takeda giving Levi advice from Sasuke Mania)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 20:58:43 GMT -5
Imagine how much time they spend reinventing the wheel by G4ing up the show? Just think how nice it would be if they just added subtitles and left the rest alone...? But that would be too easy... Yes, it would be nice if G4 just added subtitles and didn't do anything else, but that would make sense, and we all know that goes against G4's modus operandi.
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