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Post by davidcampbell on Apr 12, 2010 16:12:47 GMT -5
That would be rad if they aired it live! They do it with AOTS so they COULD if they wanted to.
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Post by baronbk on Apr 12, 2010 23:06:54 GMT -5
Haha, if it were live it would turn into the Ryoga Show. He would hunt down those cameras and be in any shot he could! lol
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Post by arsenette on Apr 12, 2010 23:26:37 GMT -5
Haha, if it were live it would turn into the Ryoga Show. He would hunt down those cameras and be in any shot he could! lol I see that happening.... And yeah David that would be cool but they'd have a problem just like Sasuke has.. it's a friggin' long day.. I wonder how many days this sucker is going to be??? Last time it was 5 right?
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Post by baronbk on Apr 13, 2010 1:04:41 GMT -5
Last time it was four days of competition. Two qualifier days, one semis, and one for the final. I don't expect it to change if the format stays the same: Qualifiers > top 30 > top 15 > final 10. But they could change up how many make it to the semi's and/or finals.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 13, 2010 1:07:51 GMT -5
Ah that 5th day was the one day in between that had problems with a permit or something? That's what threw me off.
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Post by davidcampbell on Apr 13, 2010 1:21:44 GMT -5
yeah
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Post by jfeathe on Apr 13, 2010 14:16:08 GMT -5
Last time it was four days of competition. Two qualifier days, one semis, and one for the final. I don't expect it to change if the format stays the same: Qualifiers > top 30 > top 15 > final 10. But they could change up how many make it to the semi's and/or finals. The two main problems I saw with ANW was 1.) The "fastest time" based ranking and 2.) The horrid final They could easily acheive roughly the numbers they want (30 -> 15 -> 10) if they put a stringent time limit on both stages. The problem was that there was ZERO chance for anyone competing on the first day. They need to have third stage obstacles for the final. Plain and simply.
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Post by bigblind168 on Apr 13, 2010 16:40:13 GMT -5
Okay, IMO ANW should be 4 short stages, all who clear move on until the final. And for the sake of me not typing as much, theyre sending 10 people (not offcial, but yeah)
Day 1: stage 1
sextuple steps, rope swing, jump hang, circle slider (17 version) cargo net. time limit: 90 seconds
Day 2: Stage 2:
Salmon ladder (muscle park version), balance tank, spider walk (ANW1), warped wall. Time limit: 80 seconds
Day 3: Stage 3: Rope junction, devil steps (10 up, 5 down), shin cliff hanger, spider flip, dropping pipe slider (see ANW1)(swing to mat like sasuke 4-present) No time limit
Day 4: Stage 4:
30 meter sprint, 35ft rope climb.
The 10 fastest on the final stage get a ticket to Japan.
Lets say 11 dont make the final stage, then its the 11 who went farthest in stage 3. 12 dont make it past stage 2, then the top 12 do 13 dont pass stage 1, then the top 13 do.
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Post by davidcampbell on Apr 13, 2010 17:41:50 GMT -5
Last time it was four days of competition. Two qualifier days, one semis, and one for the final. I don't expect it to change if the format stays the same: Qualifiers > top 30 > top 15 > final 10. But they could change up how many make it to the semi's and/or finals. The two main problems I saw with ANW was 1.) The "fastest time" based ranking and 2.) The horrid final They could easily acheive roughly the numbers they want (30 -> 15 -> 10) if they put a stringent time limit on both stages. The problem was that there was ZERO chance for anyone competing on the first day. They need to have third stage obstacles for the final. Plain and simply. Myself, Travis, Rich King all went on the first day. Fastest time ranking wasn't a problem. The problem was people forgetting that they were being timed. I went there expecting to compete for speed against hundreds of people, it didn't matter how many people went before or after me or what the current fastest time was when I ran (I think when me and Travis got up to run, the fastest time was close to a minute?) I just went as fast as I (safely) could go. Next time I think we'll see less time differences between day 1 and 2 because people now know that can't walk through the course and stand there looking at each obstacle if they wan't to make it to the next round. Stage 3 obstacles as a final would be great, or a 50' rope climb or something, or both.
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Post by davidcampbell on Apr 13, 2010 18:02:58 GMT -5
Okay, IMO ANW should be 4 short stages, all who clear move on until the final. The 10 fastest on the final stage get a ticket to Japan. Part of the problem last time was that all the stages were much shorter than stage1 of Sasuke, so when the 10 got over there they ran out of gas. Longer stages will get better competitors. Another problem was with the 10 fastest in the final going to Japan. Hypothetically let's say that you you clear all stages in 30 seconds each, while it takes all the other competitors over a minute. (basically you're killing it, head and shoulders above everyone, no contest). Ok now you get to the final and everyone else clears it in 1:00 while you clear it in 1:01 (so you're 1 second behind in one stage after beating everyone else by 30 seconds in previous stages) Ok now who's really the best person to send, obviously you're the best, but by the rules you lost! This is what happened to me and a couple others such as Sean. Rick had pretty horrible times on the obstacle courses, but just barely made it though, I think I was about 20 seconds faster or more on both version of the course. And I even beat him by a few soconds in the brick carry! Then on the tire run he was 10 seconds faster (only 10 seconds faster even though I had to do it twice) but he went to Japan and I didn't. Like I said it was similar with a couple others like Sean and Ryan Cousins I think? Totally retarded. Anyway, I think a better way to score it would be to add the total times of all stages together. Or maybe award points for which order you finished in in each stage and the most points wins. Also they had Brian Orosco as the overall winner which( no offence to Brian, you killed the final) just wasn't the case, his time on the obstacle courses was not very good. The over all winner was probably Levi, because he finished high in all 3 stages.
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Post by bigblind168 on Apr 13, 2010 22:40:12 GMT -5
David, The way I look at it, G4 is trying to get an American on the show that can win. Not go the fastest. If they wanted the fastest, you wouldnt have gone in 22, They would have pulled some strings to send William Spencer to 23, and more. But no, they're looking for someone who can win it (atleast how I see it). In every Sasuke, u gotta beat the stages. You dont get bonus points if you pass with 20seconds left. You get bonus money and bonus car with winning. Now, if you pass stage 1 with 25 seconds left, and Jim passes with 7 seconds left, you're both going to stage two, so it doesnt quite matter. And if they beat you out by a second? Tough luck. Train harder, theyre more qualified for Sasuke. They still clear the stages, but they climb rope faster than you. Tough break.
Basicly, what i'm saying is: faster≠better A win is a win no matter if u won by 6 or by 60, its +1 in the win column. If they are clearing the stages, but can climb rope faster than you, they are more qualified and more prepared for SASUKE.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 14, 2010 0:26:38 GMT -5
Can't compare 22 since there was no competition Plain and simple. Heck.. David was by far the best in Sasuke 22 since he almost finished while Levi failed one obstacle and Luci failed another. Even M9/TBS goes with who went the furthest rather than "time" when placing people as last person standing. Btw Blind what happened to David had nothing to do with "time" it had to do with the fact that G4 didn't stick to the rules they had in place. He didn't touch the tire and he still was forced to run back and redo it. If he contested it he would have won the argument since he didn't touch the tires and therefore broke no rules and therefore did not need to run back. Problem was.. they kept bitching to move the production on because they were running out of light. Within time limit is what I want for the first stage of ANW. How fast or slow you get there is irrelevant. If you finish within the time allotted then you pass to the next stage. That's how Sasuke has it. The next stages should have some hanging obstacles since from stage 2 and on in Sasuke that's all it is - Grip strength and endurance. Never thought I'd say it but I would have taken the Ninja Killer over that horrid final they had in ANW.. LOL
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Post by davidcampbell on Apr 14, 2010 0:49:39 GMT -5
David, The way I look at it, G4 is trying to get an American on the show that can win. Not go the fastest. If they wanted the fastest, you wouldn't have gone in 22, They would have pulled some strings to send William Spencer to 23, and more. But no, they're looking for someone who can win it (at least how I see it). In every Sasuke, u gotta beat the stages. You don't get bonus points if you pass with 20seconds left. You get bonus money and bonus car with winning. Now, if you pass stage 1 with 25 seconds left, and Jim passes with 7 seconds left, you're both going to stage two, so it doesn't quite matter. And if they beat you out by a second? Tough luck. Train harder, they're more qualified for Sasuke. They still clear the stages, but they climb rope faster than you. Tough break. Basically, what I'm saying is: faster≠better A win is a win no matter if u won by 6 or by 60, its +1 in the win column. If they are clearing the stages, but can climb rope faster than you, they are more qualified and more prepared for SASUKE. Huh? So what are you saying, speed is important for the final, but not anything leading up to the final? What if they have the final first, and the open tryout stage as the final? Just because it's last doesn't make it more important. The final wasn't a rope climb as you know (haha, I woulda KILLED a rope climb!). But even if it was a rope climb, why is it ok to have a speed contest for that and not the obstacle course? They are both the same format as far as Sasuke in concerned (time limit). It doesn't matter how fast you climb the final stage as long as you make it in the time limit. Same as stage 1, it doesn't matter how fast you run it as long as you clear it under the time limit. So why not have everything be equally important? As I said before one isn't more important than the other just because it's last. If G4 was really looking for someone to achieve total victory, they should just setup full scale shin-cliffhanger as the first and only obstacle. Less than 10 people would even clear it, so just send them haha! I agree that once you get to Sasuke, speed isn't a big issue as long as you can go fast enough to pass the stage. BUT!!!!! All those guys timed out for the most part! Sooooo they needed faster people. Speed on Sasuke = confidence, experience, stamina & skill = Better (usually) As for what G4 wants, well they'd love it if an American won I'm sure, but all they REALLY want is people to clear stage one and maybe two. This was evident by the lack of any "hard" cliffhanger or salmon ladder type obstacles. Of course it wouldn't matter quite so much if the final was Sasuke related. Uhg, it's a pointless discussion though, they'll do it how they want regardless of what we think. But just for the record I'm not just saying it should be that way because I didn't make it. I'll be prepared for anything at ANW2, so I really don't care what they do, I'll f*** s*** up this time! (as long as they don't make us play basketball or bingo or something as the final!) I just don't want to see more top competitors not make it because if little flukes, and weak contestants that just barely skate by get lucky and make it at a more skilled athlete's expense.
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Post by baronbk on Apr 14, 2010 1:00:05 GMT -5
Team Butter vs Team Tempest, first to 10 baskets, as the final of ANW2! I love it! I think we have a good chance there
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Post by davidcampbell on Apr 14, 2010 1:06:30 GMT -5
Can't compare 22 since there was no competition Plain and simple. Heck.. David was by far the best in Sasuke 22 since he almost finished while Levi failed one obstacle and Luci failed another. Even M9/TBS goes with who went the furthest rather than "time" when placing people as last person standing. Btw Blind what happened to David had nothing to do with "time" it had to do with the fact that G4 didn't stick to the rules they had in place. He didn't touch the tire and he still was forced to run back and redo it. If he contested it he would have won the argument since he didn't touch the tires and therefore broke no rules and therefore did not need to run back. Problem was.. they kept bitching to move the production on because they were running out of light. Within time limit is what I want for the first stage of ANW. How fast or slow you get there is irrelevant. If you finish within the time allotted then you pass to the next stage. That's how Sasuke has it. The next stages should have some hanging obstacles since from stage 2 and on in Sasuke that's all it is - Grip strength and endurance. Never thought I'd say it but I would have taken the Ninja Killer over that horrid final they had in ANW.. LOL Haha you mean "The Box" from ANC2? Yeah , I'd have to agree! Oh by the way, I confirmed it with someone from G4 that those "teeth" were supposed to be a Salmon Ladder, but it didn't work right or something! Pass/no pass is good in theory, but the course was so easy that it made it kind of irrellevant. If it was actually as long and hard (uh huh huh huh) as Sasuke then I'd agree. But I'm sure they want a reliable way to assure their desired number of contestants for each day and the time limit works for this, so I doubt it will change. If the course was harder the problem would fix itself though. If the open tryout course was so hard that less than 30 people cleared it, then all you'd really have to worry about is if you can clear it or not, and the people who failed can worry about who got where the fastest to fill the remaining top 30.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 14, 2010 1:07:05 GMT -5
LOL or this:
CANDY!
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Post by davidcampbell on Apr 14, 2010 1:08:03 GMT -5
Team Butter vs Team Tempest, first to 10 baskets, as the final of ANW2! I love it! I think we have a good chance there Well we do have some tall guys, you, Chris, Mark, Travis haha!
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Post by davidcampbell on Apr 14, 2010 1:11:57 GMT -5
Uhh the candy's in my lap!
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Post by Ninja Chris on Apr 17, 2010 1:33:03 GMT -5
Uhh the candy's in my lap! It's ok, I doubt she knows how to eat it there either. /Off Topic I'm all for the basketball ANW stage!
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Post by supersheep on Apr 18, 2010 23:38:14 GMT -5
Deleted the last handful of posts here, they were both off topic and flaming.
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