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Post by YoDaUO on Apr 20, 2010 21:05:07 GMT -5
ATM I think okuyama has a better chance than Takeda. But you cant forget that the guy is 40 years old. He really amazed me the past few Sasukes.
I say Takeda will keep getting to the Third Stage if the first 2 stay the same. I still believe that he can beat this new cliff hanger.
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Post by intelligentinfer on Apr 20, 2010 22:22:32 GMT -5
Well, remember that he beat the Cliff Hanger v3 on his first attempt
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Post by joemello on Apr 20, 2010 22:47:51 GMT -5
I don't think he will really care about not being able to pass it. Spoken like someone who is strictly non-competitive.
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Post by arsenette on Apr 20, 2010 22:56:35 GMT -5
LOL Takeda is uber competitive.. there's no way he'd want someone else to beat it when he can. I honestly think that he could pass this thing... not sure how many times he would fail first though.
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Post by Lennon on Apr 20, 2010 23:13:13 GMT -5
I think if he practiced it like he did with the Shin-Cliff Hanger, he might have a chance. With the SCH you can just practice it, get the technique down, and master it. Thats why 13 of the last 14 who tried it passed it like it wasn't even there. That can't be said for the UCH, I just dont see any style or technique where you can say "If I do it like this way, I will pass it each time" So just saying he can practice it isn't really going to work this time. Well, it will require some technique. The second half is closely related to the Shin-Cliff Hanger. You're swinging to one part and then to the next. Yes, he will have to increase his endurance, but that also takes "practice."
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Post by The Chief on Apr 20, 2010 23:24:03 GMT -5
I think that takeda will clear the UCH, simply because he has the ability to do so, and if he can do something, Takeda will do it.
I give him until 27 to pass it.(As in, in 27, he should have passed it by then)
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Apr 21, 2010 9:30:32 GMT -5
He didn't even have it in him to clear the double salmon ladder this time around, if he ever makes it to stage 3 again(hopefully he will) he is not going to beat the UCH, watch him struggle on stage 3 in Sasuke 24, yes he did beat the SCH, but it was by far the worst clear of that obstacle on 24, the others made it look easy while he really had to swing for it, but mainly looking at 24, look how quickly he ran out of gas when it came to the obstacles that are strung together, he cannot do a cliffhanger that is over twice as long as the previous without needing to rest in the middle of it. I don't think he will ever beat this obstacle, but would be pleased to see him do so, if he ever muscles past it, the next obstacles are long and he will go down very fast.
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Post by FAMAS on Apr 21, 2010 10:46:19 GMT -5
If Okuyama clears it, Takeda really has no excuse Don't look down on Okuyama. He's older than Takeda and he's made the final stage. He's kicked arse the last 4 Sasuke's. He's the only competitor to make it to the third stage 3 times in a row in Shin Sasuke. Wasn't looking down on him he's a legend!
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Post by VxJasonxV on Apr 21, 2010 11:18:19 GMT -5
I agree, Okuyama's track record speaks for itsself. At this point I think he's about 1 level above Takeda. Okuyama is one of the few I could see having a chance Okuyama's Track Record is pretty bad. He never did make it to the Olympics you know... *ba dum dum, tish*
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Post by thebobmaster on Apr 21, 2010 14:46:05 GMT -5
Well, remember that he beat the Cliff Hanger v3 on his first attempt His second attempt, actually. His first was in 18, where he failed with Shunsuke Nagasaki (who tried what Takahashi did, but without success) and Nagano (who grabbed the top and disqualified himself).
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Post by supersheep on Apr 21, 2010 14:50:02 GMT -5
Takeda failed the salmon ladder in 18, he first made stage 3 in 21,
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Post by thebobmaster on Apr 22, 2010 13:35:03 GMT -5
You're right. My mistake.
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Post by theannoyingninja on Apr 22, 2010 13:53:39 GMT -5
I think Takeda can clear the UCH. He jas been to the third stage more times than anyone and that had built up his strength AND stamina. Your underestimating him.
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Post by Gavo on Apr 22, 2010 13:57:14 GMT -5
I love Takeda but I have to be realistic, it is very unlikely he will ever clear the ultimate cliffhanger, but IMO he is the most likely all-star to clear it.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 22, 2010 14:01:18 GMT -5
Well, remember that he beat the Cliff Hanger v3 on his first attempt His second attempt, actually. His first was in 18, where he failed with Shunsuke Nagasaki (who tried what Takahashi did, but without success) and Nagano (who grabbed the top and disqualified himself). Actually infer is right. Takeda's first attempt on the 3rd Cliffhanger was in Sasuke 12 (He made it to stage 3 in 9 and 11 but failed before getting to the Cliffhanger) and he passed it and failed the Pipe Slider. You seem to be thinking the Shin Cliffhanger is the 3rd version and not the 4th version, We had the all 3 levels level in Sasuke 4, 5-8 had the 2 level levels and one upwards level and 9-17 had the 3rd cliffhanger (The one people know the most probably). But Sasuke 21 was his first attempt on the Shin Cliffhanger and he passed it too. As for being on topic.. To be honest I don't think he has a good chance on the Ultimate Cliffhanger.. the third cliffhanger has given him problems in the past for hanging so long (and remember he has hurt his shoulder in the past (Ironically.. Sasuke 12 which I just mentioned) which has to have some effect on it now), plus his endurance has never been great in stage 3 so I think with the first 3 obstacles he'd fail the first or second ledges of the UCH.. I really want him to do better but it doesn't look too likely unless he's been doing ALOT of training..
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Post by SRW on Apr 22, 2010 16:25:36 GMT -5
I love Takeda but I have to be realistic, it is very unlikely he will ever clear the ultimate cliffhanger, but IMO he is the most likely all-star to clear it. LOL Huh? Nagano will be the all star who will most likely clear it!
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Post by YoDaUO on Apr 22, 2010 19:41:54 GMT -5
Some of you are underestimating Takeda. He will clear this obstacle. Just because he struggled with the v3 cliffhanger doesnt mean he will never pass the UCH. Its been 4 years and hes improved a bit. He consistently gets to the second half of stage 3 now.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 22, 2010 20:00:53 GMT -5
You also got to consider the first 3 obstacles and the UCH take about the same toll as all of Shin Sasuke's stage 3 took..
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Post by TCM on Apr 22, 2010 21:14:06 GMT -5
You also got to consider the first 3 obstacles and the UCH take about the same toll as all of Shin Sasuke's stage 3 took.. LOL the 3rd Stage wasn't THAT easy in Shin Sasuke To stay on topic, the fanboy/idealist in me would want to say "Have faith, Takeda can clear the UCH", but at the moment Sasuke 24 made me realize "Maybe he just doesn't have it in him to pass the Third Stage". Not to mention Okuyama barely got on the UCH before dropping, and he's older than Takeda. That scares me because Okuyama had no problem with the SCH while Takeda hung on the final ledge WAY too long.
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Post by chackpop on Apr 22, 2010 21:20:48 GMT -5
Seeing him being the ONLY person to fail the Double Salmon Ladder without the bar coming off (Yuuji). His strength isn't large enough to beat the ENTIRE cliffhanger. I can see him getting as far as the 4th ledge at most.
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