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Post by TCM on May 7, 2010 9:48:06 GMT -5
That replica is beautiful David. I'm a little concerened though. Unless the pictures make it look off, how high off is the first ledge? Pretty much I'm asking how much space do you have to start the climb?
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Post by FAMAS on May 7, 2010 12:01:34 GMT -5
David, isn't the tiny ledge supposed to be 15mm thick? It looks like the same thickness as the other ledges in that photo. I don't blame you for doing it like that though, I guess you should get a feel for it first then once you can do the whole thing easy, then make it thinner.
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Post by RiderLeangle on May 7, 2010 12:09:38 GMT -5
David, isn't the tiny ledge supposed to be 15mm thick? It looks like the same thickness as the other ledges in that photo. I don't blame you for doing it like that though, I guess you should get a feel for it first then once you can do the whole thing easy, then make it thinner. No.. It's supposed to be 15cm long.. That's what the announcer said..
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Post by quasikoz on May 7, 2010 12:19:49 GMT -5
Regardless that replica is going to be a beast to train with. Good luck!
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Post by FAMAS on May 7, 2010 12:38:02 GMT -5
Oh really? I thought that in terms of thickness all the ledges are 3cm thick except the tiny one which is 1.5cm thick. Am I wrong on that? Damn! Maybe I was thinking about that wraparound cliffhanger replica one of the UNCLI guys has, they have a little ledge on that, that's 15mm thick. I assumed they (M9) used that idea and put it on the UCH. Maybe not....
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Post by japantv1210 on May 7, 2010 13:31:35 GMT -5
If that tiny ledge was only 15 mm thick, then I'd start calling the Ultimate Cliffhanger impossible haha. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see some UNCLI guy doing a jump to a 15 mm ledge in the future. Those guys are insane . Your Cliffhanger looks very nice David. What's the angle of the board the first two ledges are attached to? I'm interested, because I have an idea on how to build those first two ledges in my house. I'll probably be building a Salmon Ladder first though.
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Post by davidcampbell on May 7, 2010 13:50:14 GMT -5
Japantv: 34deg (that's the best I could figure from photos.
FAMAS: The tiny ledge and the landing area of the final ledge are both made from the 3cm rail doubled up to 6cm. As it is at Sasuke.
G4fan: it's about 3-4 feet off the ground at the bottom at the moment, so you have to start from kneeling. We're going to dig out the hill a little more though.
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Post by RiderLeangle on May 7, 2010 14:02:39 GMT -5
Is the small ledge a "Catch Ledge" on Sasuke too? If so the more I think about it the UCH keeps getting easier with more thought XD
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Post by davidcampbell on May 7, 2010 14:11:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't use the term 'easy' in regards to the UCH.
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Post by RiderLeangle on May 7, 2010 14:14:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't use the term 'easy' in regards to the UCH. When did I say it was easy? I said it seems like it's a bit easier than I originally thought it was.. I didn't mean I originally thought it was easy or do now.. I mean it's not impossible like when you first look at it in 25.. XD
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Post by quasikoz on May 7, 2010 14:21:30 GMT -5
I wouldn't use the term 'easy' in regards to the UCH. When did I say it was easy? I said it seems like it's a bit easier than I originally thought it was.. I didn't mean I originally thought it was easy or do now.. I mean it's not impossible like when you first look at it in 25.. XD So far the only guy who has done it can also roll up a frying pan with his bare hands. I don't like anyone's chances. (I do like a rock climber's chances though.) I think the biggest problem is all the time you have to spend to get from Point A to Point B. Yuuji and his pals flew through the Shin-Cliffhanger. Now with the UCH, the distnace is longer and there's more jumps. I think it'll be a while before the UCH is conquered.
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Post by mikessssssss on May 7, 2010 14:42:16 GMT -5
So far the only guy who has done it can also roll up a frying pan with his bare hands. I don't like anyone's chances. (I do like a rock climber's chances though.) Yeah, but the guy who did it...did it. I think he should be given alot more credit.
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Post by davidcampbell on May 7, 2010 15:49:29 GMT -5
I tried it out yesterday, and I should mention that the #1 and #2 rails were unintentionally cut a bit skinnier than their supposed to be (by the woodshop) and then I went kinda heavy on the 45 deg edge cut off making the finger purchase area stupidly small! And I put on sever layers of red lacker making the sail nice and slick! It's pretty crazy.
Anyway I tried it yesterday and it was harder than I expected, but I got to the top of the #2 rail. I think I could have gotten the #3 rail (though my fingers were cramping a bit) but reaching for it would have extended my shoulder too much and risked a re-injury.
Also I haven't done any climbing or pull ups in almost 2 months, so I'm kinda outta shape in that area.
But I think be the time Sasuke 26 comes around I'll be ready for it!
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Post by venomcarnage89 on May 7, 2010 16:30:00 GMT -5
Oh really? I thought that in terms of thickness all the ledges are 3cm thick except the tiny one which is 1.5cm thick. Am I wrong on that? Damn! Maybe I was thinking about that wraparound cliffhanger replica one of the UNCLI guys has, they have a little ledge on that, that's 15mm thick. I assumed they (M9) used that idea and put it on the UCH. Maybe not.... The small ledge is 15mm wide, as Rider is saying, the thickness of that ledge, and the beginning of the last ledge is 6cm, double the thickness of the rest of the cliffhanger. I actually always thought it was only 4cm on the SCH's gap ledge, but was suprised to find out that the ledges were indeed 6cm thickafter big gaps. If the ledge was 15mm, we would never see another third stage clear, the UNCLI's can barely just climb on 15mm, I know I can't really move on it too well, much less land on it after a 1m jump.
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Post by davidcampbell on May 7, 2010 16:36:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean I'm sure there is some tall skinny guy somewhere in the world that might be able to pull it off, but for all the current competitors of Sasuke I'd imagine jumping to a 15cm ledge would be impossible, especially if the edge is shaved at a 45deg.
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Post by venomcarnage89 on May 7, 2010 21:24:23 GMT -5
Yeah I forgot about adding the edge shave to the fact, which would take up probably 5mm. I hope it never comes to the day where we have pretty much a 1cm ledge cliffhanger through and through, but it really makes you think what the next cliffhanger will end up being after the UCH becomes an obstacle 4/5 men complete during competition.
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Post by YoDaUO on May 7, 2010 21:32:05 GMT -5
Yeah I forgot about adding the edge shave to the fact, which would take up probably 5mm. I hope it never comes to the day where we have pretty much a 1cm ledge cliffhanger through and through, but it really makes you think what the next cliffhanger will end up being after the UCH becomes an obstacle 4/5 men complete during competition. Hah Im practicing a 1cm cliff hanger on my door frames. The longest I can hang on is about 10 seconds.
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Post by venomcarnage89 on May 8, 2010 9:41:07 GMT -5
Yeah I practice it too once and awhile, but I just let go fairly quickly because I just don't feel like hanging on very long. I built a 2cm cliffhanger thats like 8ft long and do that sometimes for now though.
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Post by FAMAS on May 8, 2010 10:54:54 GMT -5
Oh really? I thought that in terms of thickness all the ledges are 3cm thick except the tiny one which is 1.5cm thick. Am I wrong on that? Damn! Maybe I was thinking about that wraparound cliffhanger replica one of the UNCLI guys has, they have a little ledge on that, that's 15mm thick. I assumed they (M9) used that idea and put it on the UCH. Maybe not.... The small ledge is 15mm wide, as Rider is saying, the thickness of that ledge, and the beginning of the last ledge is 6cm, double the thickness of the rest of the cliffhanger. I actually always thought it was only 4cm on the SCH's gap ledge, but was suprised to find out that the ledges were indeed 6cm thickafter big gaps. If the ledge was 15mm, we would never see another third stage clear, the UNCLI's can barely just climb on 15mm, I know I can't really move on it too well, much less land on it after a 1m jump. Yes haha I guess that's why I thought it was impossible, now I know it's not as impossible as I thought, although still very difficult nevertheless!
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