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Post by Badalight on Sept 30, 2008 18:29:03 GMT -5
Actually that wasn't the safety issue, I was explaining how arms only is possible, If its angled like that you can do it arms only. I find it hard to believe they make you do 3 difficult stages and then make you do the easiest Final Stage to date (Easier than the Kunoichi ones even). Thats just saying "You beat the Third Stage, you Win!", But with a Final Stage like that, its moer like the Final Stage is a formality, there has to be some kind of catch! Konuichi uses a pole, Sasuke uses a rope. Even if it's a ladder, I'd have a much ahrder time climbing a rope then a pole... That's not the point though, they wouldn't angle it... angling would mean making it long, that's what happens when you angle something. If it was straight up going to 10M it'd be 10 M, but if it was angled at like a 10 degree angle it'd be like 15M. See what I mean? It'd be unfair. Like I said, if it is a ladder, there are no special rules, if it's a ladder then it's a freaking ladder. it doesn't matter if it's easier, they've made the course "easier" before. 19-20 was a huge decrease in difficulty, so the final stage doesn't have to be as hard as 9-17, especially after the new 3rd stage. That aside, I'd still hope that this isn't the new final stage, because it IS a lot easier... a lot more beatable than before. Hopefully if it is a ladder, the rope is longer.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 30, 2008 18:46:20 GMT -5
This special ruling is looking less and less likely, although you might have to jump for the rope. But with it this easy I think they're being nice to anyone who can get through stage 3 (Gliding Ring = Pure Evil with all those obstacles before it)
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Post by supernovamaniac on Sept 30, 2008 23:09:26 GMT -5
No. Monster 9 wouldn't do such a thing. You are saying something (no not exactly, not even technically... maybe sorta) like: If people pass 3rd Stage, they get a cake from Monster 9 along with 2 million yen.
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Post by alphabater on Sept 30, 2008 23:39:07 GMT -5
maybe monster 9 made a easier final stage so someone could win it more often and they think that if more people win it they will get more viewers since its been getting low ratings
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Post by supernovamaniac on Oct 1, 2008 0:17:22 GMT -5
alphabater, as much as I hate to disagree with you, i dont think that will happen... i mean they will lose quite amount of money if that happens.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 1, 2008 12:23:29 GMT -5
They may lose 4 million yen and whatever money it takes to redesign the course but they'd gain popularity, plus people would be thinking "So the course IS Possible!"
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Post by scnoi1217 on Oct 1, 2008 12:28:27 GMT -5
...and then the show would lose some of it's appeal because it is supposed to be the hardest obstacle course in the world and having a lame Final Stage that someone can beat will totally ruin the show. Hopefully, whatever the new Final Stage is, ladder or not, it doesn't turn out to be like that.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 1, 2008 13:11:15 GMT -5
Well all the evidence is pointing at a ladder, but thats the easiest final stage ever. I think there has to be some kind of catch, like a ruling or a short time or something because with the dificulty the rest of the course has taken theres no way they're going to make the course easier, unless they don't think anyone will ever pass the Gliding Ring and the Final Stage is a decoration and then they think "Oh s***, someone got there!"
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Post by dwizzo on Oct 1, 2008 14:22:33 GMT -5
I think the gliding ring is impossible so, ya, they don't care about the final stage... I wouldn't be surprised if the ladder is just a red herring and the "new" final stage is just a rope climb like in the first sasukes
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Post by The Chief on Oct 1, 2008 16:26:59 GMT -5
I predict that it will be Ladder 10m Final Rope 20m or something like that.
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Post by SuperTiger on Oct 1, 2008 18:04:02 GMT -5
The Final Stage is still 22.5 m not 30 meters so its not possible, if this is a ladder it's not metal, you can beat that Sasuke isn't gonna make it that easy, wheather the final ring is impossible or not. It's just that, Sasuke has now created a "impossible" course and they know that the skills of Nagano and the all-stars are great. My best guess is that the ladder is made of rope(doubt it), bungee, or something like that, the thing is that, you cannot tell what kind of material it is from those pics(the ones where you barely see the ladder) There is no way that this is easier than the previous final stage. We have already discussed that it could be easier than the Kunoichi final stage which Sasuke wouldn't do. They've done several tests on it, its Sasuke.
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Post by alphabater on Oct 1, 2008 18:23:02 GMT -5
i think the only way for a ladder to be hard on the final stage is if its the salmon ladder
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Post by SuperTiger on Oct 1, 2008 19:29:54 GMT -5
For all we know thats what it could be, but i doubt it, I've said this before, and I'll say it again, I think that this is a distraction/ploy to get the all-stars training for it, and when Sasuke actually inveils it they will be shocked.
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Post by supernovamaniac on Oct 1, 2008 19:51:41 GMT -5
Climb the ladder with a foot... haha..... no.
Back on the serious side, I don't think that the set-up that Levi saw was true on some basis.
1. While he was getting interviewed after his fall, nothing was set up. 2. Someone on wiki edited this and then scnoi edited it, but I think I see 2 ropes coming from the top (not including the 3 cables that support the camera). If the rope was pulled off to the side (might be wrong), then it is sensible for them to pull it up. But I don't think they left it on the height they wanted it to be for a certain amount of time so that people can see how it looks like. 3. Ladder is put down somewhere. Not on the left or right (I think. If there is a picture to disprove my sayings, please go ahead and do so.), so it has to be on the ground. On that Levi interview thing, we see an object on the ground. However, I think it is too thick enough to be a ladder.
My assumption: If the 'ladder' scenes from 20th were true, then I would say there are two poles on each side of you that you have to climb with hands. I seriously doubt that the ladder 'steps' are actually there. I think it is from background, but still, I might be wrong. However, there has to be some support in the middle so that it doesn't sway a lot when you get to the top.
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Post by dwizzo on Oct 1, 2008 21:08:11 GMT -5
The sad thing is it will be several years before we see anyone make it to the final stage... And there's a decent chance Sasuke will be canceled/off-air by then, so we may NEVER see it
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Post by supernovamaniac on Oct 1, 2008 21:43:08 GMT -5
Then Levi will tell us, since it doesn't matter if Sasuke is canceled.
But Sasuke 22 will come, and by the results of Sasuke 21, I think Sasuke 22 will get a higher rating.
Please TBS. MOVE IT TO SAT/SUN
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Post by SuperTiger on Oct 2, 2008 15:25:34 GMT -5
My question is, why do they unveil the Kunoichi final stage, but not the Sasuke final stage, thats a bit odd
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Post by RiderLeangle on Oct 2, 2008 16:53:44 GMT -5
Kunoichi hasn't been as big of a deal as Sasuke has been, less competitions and more limited selection of competitors (it is womens only), plus ratings have always been less. So they probably care less about Kunoichi than about Sasuke.
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Post by davidyko on Oct 2, 2008 17:01:15 GMT -5
I disagree with the notion that it will take several years until someone makes it to the Final. Look at how close Nagano got this time. As the level of competitors gets higher, more of 'em will be likely to get near the end (course isn't going to get ridiculously harder anytime soon), and I expect a finalist within the next two competitions, to be honest.
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Post by alx on Oct 2, 2008 23:59:04 GMT -5
I do not understand why people are dismissing a ladder as "easy" or disappointing. Really. When Nagano won 17, he did the spider climb in a bit over 10 seconds. Do you think climbing a 12.5m ladder straight up would be done much faster than 10 seconds? Especially if it has thinner than usual rungs to make slipping easier? I guarantee you the course designers wouldn't be silly enough to have an *easier* final stage. Besides, I always thought part of the "sell" of the final stage was its simplicity. Just climb this rope in under 30 seconds and you win. Just spider climb half way up and rope climb the rest and you win. And part of the fun (or angst ) is how many people fail such a "simple" task. It took how many people before the victory during Sasuke 4? 10? And that was "just" a 15m rope. A ladder followed by a rope climb would be fine. It would fit the theme, really.
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